▲ 993 ▼ A security researcher says Microsoft secretly built a backdoor into BitLocker, releases an exploit to prove it (www.techspot.com) submitted 5 months ago by Itwasntme223@discuss.online to c/technology@lemmy.world 157 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 75 points 5 months ago (9 children) Good. We always knew it was there. They sold their soul to the NSA decades ago. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-the-nsa-stopped-trying-to-prevent-the-spread-of-encryption-and-decided-to-just-break-it-instead-4569969/ permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] tomiant@piefed.social 12 points 5 months ago (8 children) I remember the day I saw the "Intel! Inside" commercial and the logo, and I thought, I don't fucking trust this company. Yeah no shit Intel inside, you've got every fucking three letter agency inside. I knew it was over the day they introduced UEFI and TPM. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 months ago (5 children) Wait what's wrong with UEFI? My computer uses it, although I have an AMD chipset if that makes a difference... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 2 points 5 months ago* (4 children) Mostly the "secure boot" crap, which you can turn off (it's more a "running your own software on the machine" risk than a privacy risk). UEFI in general isn't too bad (way way WAY more complex than BIOS though) and managing EFI bootloaders is so much less hassle than with BIOS boot! -- Frost permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago (3 children) All I know about secure boot is that if I make a custom ISO and try booting from it, I would need to create a signature first, register it in my UEFI, and use it to sign the ISO. Seems like a pain in the ass, but then again if I want to play with a custom ISO I can do so in a VM, and that seems kind of worth it to prevent someone from booting whateverthefuck if they somehow gain physical access to my computer... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 2 points 5 months ago (2 children) I mean, if they gain physical access to your computer, they can just boot their favorite Linux live ISO and go to town. :3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) That's true too, I guess. I suppose the only way to prevent that would be to disable USB boot, which would also make recovery impossible? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 1 point 5 months ago It certainly wouldn't help recovery. IMO it's better to not try to restrict them from running stuff, and instead to encrypt your disk. Like, they can also just pull your drive and stick it in their own machine (and you WANT to be able to pull your own drive if your computer gets in a physical crash or watered or something and stops working). permalink fedilink source parent [–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) So what are you using and recommending? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago Pen and paper. And be suspicious about the paper. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tomiant@piefed.social 12 points 5 months ago (8 children) I remember the day I saw the "Intel! Inside" commercial and the logo, and I thought, I don't fucking trust this company. Yeah no shit Intel inside, you've got every fucking three letter agency inside. I knew it was over the day they introduced UEFI and TPM. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 months ago (5 children) Wait what's wrong with UEFI? My computer uses it, although I have an AMD chipset if that makes a difference... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 2 points 5 months ago* (4 children) Mostly the "secure boot" crap, which you can turn off (it's more a "running your own software on the machine" risk than a privacy risk). UEFI in general isn't too bad (way way WAY more complex than BIOS though) and managing EFI bootloaders is so much less hassle than with BIOS boot! -- Frost permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago (3 children) All I know about secure boot is that if I make a custom ISO and try booting from it, I would need to create a signature first, register it in my UEFI, and use it to sign the ISO. Seems like a pain in the ass, but then again if I want to play with a custom ISO I can do so in a VM, and that seems kind of worth it to prevent someone from booting whateverthefuck if they somehow gain physical access to my computer... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 2 points 5 months ago (2 children) I mean, if they gain physical access to your computer, they can just boot their favorite Linux live ISO and go to town. :3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) That's true too, I guess. I suppose the only way to prevent that would be to disable USB boot, which would also make recovery impossible? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 1 point 5 months ago It certainly wouldn't help recovery. IMO it's better to not try to restrict them from running stuff, and instead to encrypt your disk. Like, they can also just pull your drive and stick it in their own machine (and you WANT to be able to pull your own drive if your computer gets in a physical crash or watered or something and stops working). permalink fedilink source parent [–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) So what are you using and recommending? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago Pen and paper. And be suspicious about the paper. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 months ago (5 children) Wait what's wrong with UEFI? My computer uses it, although I have an AMD chipset if that makes a difference... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 2 points 5 months ago* (4 children) Mostly the "secure boot" crap, which you can turn off (it's more a "running your own software on the machine" risk than a privacy risk). UEFI in general isn't too bad (way way WAY more complex than BIOS though) and managing EFI bootloaders is so much less hassle than with BIOS boot! -- Frost permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago (3 children) All I know about secure boot is that if I make a custom ISO and try booting from it, I would need to create a signature first, register it in my UEFI, and use it to sign the ISO. Seems like a pain in the ass, but then again if I want to play with a custom ISO I can do so in a VM, and that seems kind of worth it to prevent someone from booting whateverthefuck if they somehow gain physical access to my computer... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 2 points 5 months ago (2 children) I mean, if they gain physical access to your computer, they can just boot their favorite Linux live ISO and go to town. :3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) That's true too, I guess. I suppose the only way to prevent that would be to disable USB boot, which would also make recovery impossible? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 1 point 5 months ago It certainly wouldn't help recovery. IMO it's better to not try to restrict them from running stuff, and instead to encrypt your disk. Like, they can also just pull your drive and stick it in their own machine (and you WANT to be able to pull your own drive if your computer gets in a physical crash or watered or something and stops working). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 2 points 5 months ago* (4 children) Mostly the "secure boot" crap, which you can turn off (it's more a "running your own software on the machine" risk than a privacy risk). UEFI in general isn't too bad (way way WAY more complex than BIOS though) and managing EFI bootloaders is so much less hassle than with BIOS boot! -- Frost permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago (3 children) All I know about secure boot is that if I make a custom ISO and try booting from it, I would need to create a signature first, register it in my UEFI, and use it to sign the ISO. Seems like a pain in the ass, but then again if I want to play with a custom ISO I can do so in a VM, and that seems kind of worth it to prevent someone from booting whateverthefuck if they somehow gain physical access to my computer... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 2 points 5 months ago (2 children) I mean, if they gain physical access to your computer, they can just boot their favorite Linux live ISO and go to town. :3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) That's true too, I guess. I suppose the only way to prevent that would be to disable USB boot, which would also make recovery impossible? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 1 point 5 months ago It certainly wouldn't help recovery. IMO it's better to not try to restrict them from running stuff, and instead to encrypt your disk. Like, they can also just pull your drive and stick it in their own machine (and you WANT to be able to pull your own drive if your computer gets in a physical crash or watered or something and stops working). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago (3 children) All I know about secure boot is that if I make a custom ISO and try booting from it, I would need to create a signature first, register it in my UEFI, and use it to sign the ISO. Seems like a pain in the ass, but then again if I want to play with a custom ISO I can do so in a VM, and that seems kind of worth it to prevent someone from booting whateverthefuck if they somehow gain physical access to my computer... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 2 points 5 months ago (2 children) I mean, if they gain physical access to your computer, they can just boot their favorite Linux live ISO and go to town. :3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) That's true too, I guess. I suppose the only way to prevent that would be to disable USB boot, which would also make recovery impossible? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 1 point 5 months ago It certainly wouldn't help recovery. IMO it's better to not try to restrict them from running stuff, and instead to encrypt your disk. Like, they can also just pull your drive and stick it in their own machine (and you WANT to be able to pull your own drive if your computer gets in a physical crash or watered or something and stops working). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 2 points 5 months ago (2 children) I mean, if they gain physical access to your computer, they can just boot their favorite Linux live ISO and go to town. :3 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) That's true too, I guess. I suppose the only way to prevent that would be to disable USB boot, which would also make recovery impossible? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 1 point 5 months ago It certainly wouldn't help recovery. IMO it's better to not try to restrict them from running stuff, and instead to encrypt your disk. Like, they can also just pull your drive and stick it in their own machine (and you WANT to be able to pull your own drive if your computer gets in a physical crash or watered or something and stops working). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) That's true too, I guess. I suppose the only way to prevent that would be to disable USB boot, which would also make recovery impossible? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 1 point 5 months ago It certainly wouldn't help recovery. IMO it's better to not try to restrict them from running stuff, and instead to encrypt your disk. Like, they can also just pull your drive and stick it in their own machine (and you WANT to be able to pull your own drive if your computer gets in a physical crash or watered or something and stops working). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 1 point 5 months ago It certainly wouldn't help recovery. IMO it's better to not try to restrict them from running stuff, and instead to encrypt your disk. Like, they can also just pull your drive and stick it in their own machine (and you WANT to be able to pull your own drive if your computer gets in a physical crash or watered or something and stops working). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) So what are you using and recommending? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago Pen and paper. And be suspicious about the paper. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago Pen and paper. And be suspicious about the paper. permalink fedilink source parent