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So easy to control (europe.pub)
submitted 4 months ago by [M] to c/latestagecapitalism@lemmy.world
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[–] 1 point 4 months ago (59 children)

Welll if they're just going to try to convince people to indirectly support maga, then no, I don't want to hear that ignorance.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago (17 children)

    There's not a damn bit of difference between BlueMAGA like yourself and MAGA. The party you are supporting has directly led us to where we are right now. Fascism does not form in a vacuum, it requires the help of a complicit liberal party.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (16 children)

    If the Dems were in power now the entire world would be in a much better place. I'm not sure how you can possibly not see that. But they simply don't have the seats in either house to stop the fascists (especially considering the non-dem dems). They don't have power mostly because too many idiotic Americans fell for Trump's crap, but also because too many leftists failed to vote against him and the magas. Of course Dems are still beholden to the billionaires, and it would be great to primary out a bunch and get younger progressives in there. But they are so much better than trump/maga and if you don't see that, you are being willfully ignorant.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (31 children)

    To elaborate, you conflate not liking the Dems with liking MAGA when it's not the case. You can't conceive people disliking your slightly less conservatism with anything else other than MAGA. You're incapable of thinking of a left side far beyond the Democrats you're so far in yourself.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (30 children)

    We may not like it, but we're stuck with a two party system in the U.S. so when you fail to vote for one party, you are supporting the other. If you truely believe that the Dems are just as bad as maga or just don't care about pedophile support, wars to distract, ruining international alliances, destroying environmental controls, trans rights, loss of international soft power, destroying international trade, etc., then you are saying that yes you support maga intentionally by not voting usefully against them. You can like more progressive ideals and fight like hell in the primaries, but if you don't vote usefully against maga in the elections, then you are part of the problem.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (22 children)

    More false dichotomy bullshit and defeatism. Love it.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (21 children)

    It's not defeatism. Push to win in the primaries, that's how we shift the power. But it only works if they then actually get elected. When you give up and throw away your vote, that's the defeatism.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    There's no such thing as throwing away your vote, if the person the party puts forwards doesn't represent you then you select someone who does. It's not my job to vote democrats into power no matter what, it's their job to put forward a candidate that supports me to EARN my vote. And with what they did to Bernie in 2016, they won't let someone with a sniff of progressive political discourse run as the nominee.

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