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[–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago (17 children)

There's not a damn bit of difference between BlueMAGA like yourself and MAGA. The party you are supporting has directly led us to where we are right now. Fascism does not form in a vacuum, it requires the help of a complicit liberal party.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (16 children)

    If the Dems were in power now the entire world would be in a much better place. I'm not sure how you can possibly not see that. But they simply don't have the seats in either house to stop the fascists (especially considering the non-dem dems). They don't have power mostly because too many idiotic Americans fell for Trump's crap, but also because too many leftists failed to vote against him and the magas. Of course Dems are still beholden to the billionaires, and it would be great to primary out a bunch and get younger progressives in there. But they are so much better than trump/maga and if you don't see that, you are being willfully ignorant.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (15 children)

    If the Dems were in power now the entire world would be in a much better place.

    If the dems would listen to their voters instead of netanyahu and only netanyahu, they might have won.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (14 children)

    Possibly. But it also could have triggered a massive backlash against them (via the Israeli bought media and the easily manipulated US electorate).

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    But it also could have triggered a massive backlash against them

    Neat how you can blame the candidates in a hypothetical that involves going against netanyahu, but blame the voters in the reality where sticking with netanyahu was what happened. Then it was the fault of those evil voters who dared to criticize your perfect genocide candidate.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (11 children)

    but I specifically blame those who would seem intelligent and progressive and supportive of Palestinians when they vote in a way that harms progress and Palestinians.

    Or ever breathe a word about how genocide is wrong as long as a centrist democrat is supporting it.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    No, you should protest and lobby as much as you can - but not once the primaries have passed and we're into an election - then we need to play politics and do whatever we can to help the better candidate win.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (8 children)

    No, you should protest and lobby as much as you can - but not once the primaries have passed and we’re into an election

    And you're acting like the primaries are fair again because you get the results you want from the cheating.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    I never said they were fair. They are what they are. It's politics and people do what ever they can to win the primaries. There's back room deals and bribery and all sorts of shit, I'm sure. But it doesn't matter: once it's a choice between A or B, and A is significantly better than B, you support A, otherwise you are helping B, which is worse. It's very simple.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (6 children)

    So support genocidal shit no one got to vote for, without condition or reservation, because people who only want your tacit approval of genocide order you to be quiet.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    Slower genocide is what you consider better. Not because it's slower, but because it's genocide.

    Do you like slower genocide because you can savor it more thoroughly?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Election's over. I get to criticize the genocide wing now, no matter how much opposing genocide bothers you.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    We will then have to work extra hard to counter this and also support all democrats in the actual election (even the ones supporting Isreal) otherwise the democrats will have no power and any elected democrats who want to push back on Isreal will be totally sidelined.

    That wasn't a concern when centrists like Gillibrand were making openly bigoted attacks on Mamdani. After his primaries, of course. Unconditional support is only demanded for centrists. Never progressives.

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