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Is it morally wrong to be non-vegetarian? (literature.cafe)
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[–] 3 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Being vegetarian or omnivorous isn't very different, morally, as producing milk still requires killing calves. I think the better comparison would be with veganism

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (9 children)

    producing milk still requires killing calves

    It certainly is not a requirement. They don't have to use the males born to make veal.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (8 children)

    Yes, it is an economic requirement. They can't compete with beef cattle for meat production, keeping them alive just makes the milk more expensive than the farmer down the road who murders his calves can sell it for.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    the vast majority of dairy calves are brought to full weight before slaughter, but slaughter still isn't necessary.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (5 children)

    How do you recoup the costs of raising a bull to full weight (which happens at a fraction of its natural lifespan) without slaughtering him? It's like saying breathing isn't necessary because you can just hold your breath.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    you can just choose not to do that

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (3 children)

    As in, choose not to be a dairy farmer or consume dairy products?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    even a dairy farmer can just choose not to kill.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    Do you even understand why you are entertaining such ridiculous ideas? It's because you don't want to face the truth and acknowledge the consequences of your choices.

    But okay, let's say a dairy could somehow operate without killing. They DON'T. You know for a fact that vulnerable individuals got murdered every time you buy dairy. So what the fuck?? What's this fantasy about murderless dairy (as if that was the only problem) of yours got to do with anything? It's a distraction from your victims.

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