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So it begins (europe.pub)
submitted 4 months ago by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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Reddit has begun rolling out mandatory age verification for any NSFW content, as well as for some social media functions, if the AI determines you might be under a certain age.

Another good day to be on Lemmy... until the surveillance capitalist tech overlords lobby enough to get their great firewall of the West, anyway.

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[–] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

There are.

But if you get the US, EU and China all requiring ID verification... plus other authoritarian leaning countries like the Saudis and w/e. The odds that like, IDK... Bahamas or Iceland gonna hold the line on this are... long.

Prob not even Canada has the throw weight to do it in the long run. Love you frozen northerners, I got your back in every way I can in this effed up world, but Canada just doesn't punch in the weight class of the EU, US, and China. Editing: I forgot Canada has Bill C-34, a similar bill to what US and EU are floating.

It's so, so important for ID reqs not to pass at the national level in the US. There are strange bedfellows tho. It has bipartisan support AND bipartisan opposition. It could also face major 1A challenges here. Time will tell.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I don't disagree that for most people, this will result in significantly less anonymity on the web and overall is a very dangerous trend.

    However, that doesn't mean that there won't still be some countries that do not have such laws and that don't answer to US/EU regulatory attempts. That's already how many quasi-illegal (or even straight up illegal) websites that operate in such countries (such as circumventing DMCA requests), and these laws are highly unlikely to entirely prevent those from continuing to find safe haven countries.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Yah I do agree there will keep being those quasi gray area legal sites.

    But even so, most ppl will live with the ID reqs, since they won't go to the gray sites. Esp if the heavy hitters like US/EU go down the China road of hardcore clamping down on VPNs. In China today, some ppl get around that. It's just very risky, so most ppl give up and use what the gov wants them to. I'm afraid we could eventually see a similar story in the US and EU. Also I forgot that Canada has a bill pending too, Bill C-34, the "Safe Social Media Act".

    IDK how the US bill will go. I am trying to remain hopeful. It sounds like it passed the House, but could be DOA in the Senate. And even if it passes the Senate, it'll be hit with 1A lawsuits and go before SCOTUS. We can't count our chickens yet or let off the pressure, but it has hurdles to clear before it becomes law of the land.

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