I’ve had this discussion with my conservative brother

Me: my company has diversity programs to reach a wider pool of applicants and to help people with historical disadvantages fulfill their potential. The best manager I ever had, had a little help overcoming language and confidence barriers, and i was happy to follow her to multiple companies

Him: they keep bringing in these managers solely by their gender or skin color and never promote engineers. They made us take this one employee who is completely unqualified and we have to do her work

He buys that there’s a harmful dei mandate that prevent qualified people from succeeding. You can imagine there’s some resentment there. However it’s easier to explain as normal large company bs, and only knowing part of the story