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The Tesseract lemmy front end has been removed from blahaj.zone (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 2 months ago by [M] to c/main@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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In light of the dev silently blacklisting blahaj.zone, many of its users and several other instances, we have removed tesseract from the available lemmy front ends we offer.

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[–] 123 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (34 children)

I just read about this and it's kind of insane. Thank you for all your efforts!

I honestly didn't catch that this server was one of the blacklisted ones. Seriously fucking wild.

Those db0 kids are chill.

EDIT: Just looked at the JSON.

What the fuck they blocked YOU, @ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone ? Seriously what the flying fuck.

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  • [–] 80 points 2 months ago (25 children)

    They got my piefed account too!

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  • [–] 66 points 2 months ago* (9 children)

    It really roils me because you seem to be one of the most level-headed people in the Fediverse. I love running across your comments in random threads because you always have something of value to add, and you write well, to boot.

    As you said yourself, it's not the blocklist that's the issue it's that it's not documented, seems somewhat intentionally hidden (including the apps claim that blocked sites are "incompatible"), and so the people deploying it aren't even aware it's there and don't have the option to disable or change it to suit their needs. It's very, very sketchy behavior on the part of the developer.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    I was peeking around on db0's post about it, and somebody mentioned that it's really bad code structure, too. Which is true, hard-coding lists is atrociously hostile to convention and clean habits. It would be like if a chef never washed their hands because they thought it added flavor.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Hard coded lists are sometimes ok… but not for something that will change frequently like a ban list of websites

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I mean, in really really really small, personal projects, I suppose. But again with the handwashing/sanitation analogy... It's better to just wash your hands and make THAT the habit.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I feel attacked as someone who doesn't wash their hands, you should be less extremist!

    Tap for spoiler/s

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Oh hi RFK

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    Lol this is RFK's brainworm talking not RFK, fool.

    ...wait a minute... only a human would talk about a host like that... are you not a brainworm...!?

    slithers over to red button and squishes into it

    alert! alert! we have a human in the brainworm bowl! alert! alert!

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (14 children)

    Ah dang. Did they get my nick at all? 🤞

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    Nah gotta up your posting game, I got individually and regex blocked 💪

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    Shiiiiiiiitfuuck. Gfdi.

    I am disappoint.

    Congrats. Well done. Happy for you.

    Edit: I'm just laughing my ass off that they're out there angrily regex blocking INDIVIDUAL people in hardcoded encrypted hidden files. The more I think about it the funnier it gets

    Edit 2: okay now I'm starting to feel sorry for them. Because yeah that's kinda sad.

    Edit 3: nope, funny again hahahahahahaha

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (8 children)

    Wonder if we should ask the devs of Lemmy and Piefed to somehow disable access to them, as it's far-right idiots doing this... they may be tankies or liberals, but they're not brownshirt fascists.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I'm not sure I understand, disable access to the blocklists? That's up to the frontend Tesseract, it doesn't interact with lemmy or piefed. It's the frontend that is developed independently from either choosing not to display posts depending on the dev's weird list.

    As for piefed, the main dev has his own strongly opinionated lists that he maintains. Most of them can be disabled by the admins who set up a piefed instance.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    I meant as in, that those who ""develop"" the crap frontend, can no longer access whatever enables them to develop it. If that's on Lemmy's devs, then that's there.

    I find it problematic if that were possible on one hand, but on another, the time is always to fight fascism.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Oh, that's not really thing in open-source. The source being public means anyone can work on it. There are certain restrictions in terms of monetizing that are put in place by licensing but you can't forbid individual people from working with, rewriting or redistributing the code (for good reason).

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Those db0 kids are chill.

    Yeah, looking at the commit history from before db0 was officially blocked is interesting. It started with a content warning system. It was designed to give users a “be cautious when interacting with this instance, they encourage violence against people they disagree with” warning. Conveniently omitting that the “people db0 disagrees with” are typically straight up neo-Nazis and supes. Apparently the dev takes issue with “punching Nazis is okay” types of comments. And then a later update silently added the blocklist instead of a content warning.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Where can I read more about this? I'm new to the fediverse and lost!

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/45726226

    This is a big thread on it, but just a heads up, it's definitely on the more technical side of the Fediverse workings, so if you need an explainer on some basic concepts, don't be afraid to ask here as a follow-up to help you understand a bit better (although @raspirate@lemmy.world has a really good basic explainer here for those who aren't super familiar with how all this works yet.)

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Thanks! To be clear, its pretty common for instances to block, say, Nazi and the instances that call North Korea NPRK, right?

    I'd like to view most of the fediverse. When I joined first, I accidentally joined hexbear lol, then I made it to beehaw. Am I getting the full experience?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Yes, blocking is absolutely common. What is uncommon is for a developer to purposefully hide a blocklist and not allow it to be changed by the admin who is spinning up the service. The issue is that it was undocumented and blocked many people who liked the interface.

    I think beehaw is a great choice. When I came to blahaj, it was between here and beehaw, and I still am subbed to a bunch of beehaw communities. I am unsure about what sites beehaw is federated with and not federated with, but they strike me as level-headed and unlikely to be blocking anything that shouldn't be blocked, I would think.

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