I am looking for a new laptop for my sister. Her budget is 650€. What laptop is the best overall? Macbooks are excluded, as she doesn't like them. The OS is not important, I can install the OS myself. It shouldn't be a gaming laptop and it also should have a long battery life. No ARM or RISC-V laptops please. Build quality should be decent.

Thanks in advance.

edit: specific requirements

  • Display size: 13 to 15 inches
  • Display resolution: +1920x1080px
  • Aspect ratio: 16:9
  • Thickness: Slim
  • Screen color accuracy is not important
  • Screen should be anti glare
  • RAM: +8GB SODIMM DDR5
  • Storage: +512GB SSD
  • Touchscreen: preferred
  • Foldable screen: preferred
  • Upgradeability: RAM and the SSD should be upgradeable
  • Keyboard: QWERTZ, DE-AT
  • GPU performance does not matter, would be only useful for video hardware acceleration
  • CPU performance does matter
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[–] 28 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

Are you married to a new one?

I pretty much exclusively buy used ~3 year old Thinkpads which meet all of your specs and then some. My last two were X1 carbons (7th gen and now a 9th gen). Each cost me about $450.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    She does want a brand new one, yes. Obviously used ones could get her a better one but she just doesn't want them.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Ah, well, that limits things a bit then.

    I have refined tastes when it comes to laptops, but I'm also cheap, so lightly used high end models are right up my alley. Unfortunately, I can't think of any [brand new ones] I would stand behind that are in that price range other than maybe a Macbook Neo, but you specifically ruled out ARM (they're also not supported by Ashai Linux yet, either).

    Sorry.

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