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"America Deserved 9/11"
-Hassan Piker
Add also a solid bunch of antisemitism to that. Dude, is a god damn lunatic.
Don't take this the wrong way, I hate terrorism and nothing justifies it but the American government didn't care about American or non white people dying while forming an alliance with Pakistan to train terrorists in Afghanistan. They knew full well how dangerous these people were. What the American government basically did was hit a hornet's nest violently in hopes that they will attack your neighbour, and act surprised when some of them came to bite your own face. If a person did that, they he would be a fool. If the American government does that, it's 'a mistake' at best.
Let's phrase this a different way. "America reaped what it sowed," or "America made its bed and is now lying in it." This is a pretty solid "yup" from me. We armed, trained, and funded the leaders of the group that carried out the attack, among many other things
If only the person you're replying to wasn't dumber than a fucking rock.
Hey now, I've met some pretty goddam intelligent rocks in my time.
No one is arguing whether America or Israel is bad.
No one deserved to be killed or lose their loved ones on 9/11 or any other event. Thinking that civilians deserve to die because a government is bad is terrorist mentality.
When someone says "America," it seems obvious they're talking about the country as a whole or its leadership, and not individual people. He very clearly is not saying "Americans deserved to die."
That is not as obvious as you think it is. I would argue that the first thing most people would think it meant is "americans deserved to die", not "the Bush administration deserved the scrutiny and criticism it brought"
Tell me what trial did bush or subsequent war criminal administration faced to make it an argument that people don't support their actions?
One even got a nobel peace prize, despite war crimes. Got no pushback from the populace.
If you harbor criminals with open records (who knows how many closed records), be ready for some retaliation?
Isnt this what US/Israel claims when they attack civs? But somehow they're never labeled poorly as "war crimes" or "terrorists". hmm… makes you think
But don't be afraid call all the region terrorists, if it makes you sleep better.
Whataboutism, and excusing inexcusable actions because of "retaliation".
I haven't once condoned anything the US military did. Doesn't mean people deserved to die.
It also didn't mean that those who were wronged by the American state should have remained silent and peaceful in front of mass killings perpetrated by all kind of administrations leading the American government. Especially when no legal recourse was given to them.
Were you an Arab who lost his entire family under American bombardments because of the oil stored in your nation soil wouldn't you had wanted some kind of retaliation against that nation? Can you empathize at all?
Ironically, conflating antisemitism with antizionism is antisemitic.
The state of Israel is the largest scapegoating of Judaism in history.
Lol your most solid source is a random post from some politician's web page?
He opposes terrorism. Which is why he opposes Israel. Which is what gets him in trouble.
He may also have said some things in support of terrorism by Hamas, which would be fucked up in my opinion. I don't know and I have no plans to take this web page seriously about it. He is still allowed to go on the internet and say those things, according to the first amendment, and this attempt to threaten him about it is horrifying whatever his opinions are. What part of "I get to say whatever the fuck I want because those are my opinions" doesn't make sense here?
Dude, you have a PDF there with ALL THE RELEVANT CITATIONS AND CLIPS from his streams in second paragraph. This is the primary source. You can't bring anything better to the table.
Also, you don't have to watch Hasan Piker for long to see that this characterization of him is totally absurd, I don't know whether it is more embarassing that people actually believe Hasan Piker is like this or that they are willing to lie so boldfacedly about it.
Hasan doesn't advocate for violence like this, I am sure he has said some spicey shit but trying to frame his as a terrorist is a dangerous road to walk and these people are doing it gleefully.
Promoting terrorism isn't protected by free speech laws. Never was, never will be
Promoting terrorism by saying Israel "has every right to defend themselves," is 100% protected. Both by the current application of the law, and by its proper intent. I'm actually not very concerned with the current application of the law to pro-Palestinian advocacy ("Palestine has every right to defend themselves") because the current application is a bunch of tyrannical bullshit, and I hope we are able to restore it to something sort of adjacent to good sense and the intent of the framers soon.
You're advocating for it being legal to advocate for terrorism, or in fact to commit it, but illegal to make terrorists uncomfortable by making edgelord statements, if the terrorists or their friends happen to be in power. That is a profoundly fucked up point of view. Pretty much every terroristic regime has usually labelled any resistance to them as "terrorism" as one of the key steps in making it illegal to resist their terrorism.
If you're having trouble grasping what I am saying, I am saying that Israel's mass slaughter of civilians including torture, starvation, bombing of hospitals, deliberately shooting children, basically any type of war crime you could think of, is terrorism. So far they have committed roughly 50 September 11ths in Gaza, at least, and they have plans to do many many more.
Hamas does commit terrorism also, yes, although far less than Israel. But the main thing I am saying is that supporting terrorism is unequivocally legal, and very popular, in the United States, as long as the terrorism is being done by our friends.
How did we get here? First some dude claims that I'm lying and that I have no sources, and then when I provide undeniable evidence, discussion swiftly switches from defending Hasan to defending Hamas. Are you really defending them because you think their attacks on civilians are justified, or you just like Hasan and don't want his image to be stained?
Well, it looks like we got here because you are overtly biased and ain't nobody here to spend hours explaining the context of every clip you linked because other people have watched DAYS of his content and they know you are just parroting bad faith sillyness.
Sorry to say, but you are a special kind of stupid. One day the terrorist state known as Israel will collapse and we will celebrate.
I will not excuse the abhorrent atrocities the IDF did. Not today, not ever.
Ps. From long Ethan viewer: he is an unstable person and his argument are in bad faith.
Yeah, I sure was defending Hamas. Boy howdy. That sure is exactly what I said.
I suspect you are intentionally just trying to stir shit by not reading the messages you're getting and pretending they say something else. If that is not the case, I would really encourage you to go back, carefully read what I wrote, and then after tell me back what you learned about what my attitude is towards Hamas, because you have severely misunderstood.
Yeah but he doesnt know and doesnt care.
You zionits been using antisemitism claim till it lost all it's meaning
This has to be troll
I don't think so.
Many people have been calling anything speaking against Israel and its actions (genocide) in Palestine antisemitic, when it's not saying anything about Jewish people or Judaism. Criticism against the existence of or actions of Israel is, more accurately, anti-Zionism, which isn't racism and doesn't deserve any special protection, just like criticism of American hegemony isn't racism.