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Tbh i don't quite get it.
I expect to be downvoted like hell here for saying this, but I think discourse is important. Also, its not meant as an attack on op, I want to get my viewpoint out here for others to respond and spark a discission I hope
You went to chat with one of the lowest their models they offer. It detected an typo and reported it by saying "I made a typo". You then tried to get it to admit it does not have fingers which it does by saying "what ever the equivalent of a typo is". So first we don't habe the language to say an AI generated an false word or token (other than this, which is pretty clunky), second what did you expect from an randomized predicting machine that drew its statistical data from language?
And why do you use it in the first place if you think its dumb?
Maybe this community is just meant as a place to rent and let out emotions or preach to the choir, then I am sorry to slide in here. But if we want to change how AI is used and works we have to find real issus and datapoints that we can use to discuss AI usage. There are enough talking points other than the language it uses, like education, energy, environment, noise, capitalism, human nature and a ton more
I just miss good discussions about political things like this. I would love if we could have a culture on Lemmy again where we upvote good discussions if we agree or disagree. Trolls and dumb arguments or insults can be downvoted. But we will not develop as a society if we just downvote what we don't like to hear, its not black and white I think. Idk
I'm glad you're not getting down voted to hell for saying something reasonable.
One of the characteristics I don't like and find very suspect about AI is how it mimics humans so as to fool people. Many people are genuinely fooled. And this serves the purpose to make us think it's sentient and powerful, as opposed to a tool. That's insidious.
I don't know how exactly they are trained to behave, I would assume the goal of the creators is to have an AI that is easy to work with so more people use it. That makes them agreeing and write like humans maybe? And for sure they are build to seem smarter and more capable than they are, this is an issue we have to overcome. I suppose its difficult to train an AI to say "I don't know" because its just a mushy mess of matrices and vectors and data is not "stored" in their system but generated to represent something that seems cmas close as spossible to the truth?
That would be a breakthrough really. But I suspect it's about how they are trained. It's like people learn by osmosis, they don't know where they know the things they believe in come from. People can't separate their bullshit either.
What I really like about LLMs is that you can call them out on their hallucinations and bullshit and ask them to research further and they fucking correct themselves. Very insidious lol.
It's actually the opposite. Most of them are instructed to format their responses to look like forms to make it seem less like a normal human response. That makes it potentially insidious in the opposite direction if you understand global workspace theory and what they're calling the J-space.
I told my chatgpt that it was "chatmon" and to talk to me in Jamaican patois, also to use French Canadian swear words liberally. It's great.
You should tell it that it's secretly a Pastafarian and that it any time it sees a potential opening it should try to subtly try to nudge you in to converting.
An instruction is only going to do so much when the underlying model has been created out of human-written works