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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago (7 children)

My unrealistic sicko fantasy: that Torvalds pulling the big ol slop lever drives enough oppositionally defiant (positive) people away from Linux development that alternative OS devel gets a serious boost.

A question for the wise: what comes after Linux?

[–] EFreethought@awful.systems 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The irritating part of all of this is that after 20+ years we finally have a (very) few companies that sell machines with Linux pre-installed. The only thing I ever learned from installing OSes is that I hate installing OSes.

I would love to boycott all software that accepts garbage [1] contributions, but I do not think that is practical. I think I might have to settle with just refusing to use it myself, and wait until everyone realizes that gen AI is just a bad idea.

Note 1: Satya Nadella said he did not want people referring to AI as "slop", so I will grant his request and refer to it as "garbage".

[–] macroplastic@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would be cool if Redox os gets more popular, they have an explicitly anti-LLM policy. Microkernels are neat, and I enjoy Rust. I think it's an unfortunate truth that everything in the future will still have to be Unix-y with compatibility layers to support existing software.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago

This looks rad as hell. I had no idea Redox was so far along!

[–] anise@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That article is a ray of sunshine

[–] anise@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

plan9 on riscv(or sparc or subleq or whatever) is also truly what I want for the future. It obviously won't be what happens(most likely linux will stay, maybe one of the less slopped bsds will take over) but please gods please

[–] antifuchs@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago

Vindicate Tanenbaum in the greatest Usenet thread in os development: make it a microkernel.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Somebody writes a low-level kernel for Emacs and the revenge of the Lisp machines begins

[–] BurgersMcSlopshot@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

maybe, but SBCL succumbed to the siren song of slop, who knows what will be next.

[–] TrashGoblin@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, seeing that gave me the black pill. I chose Common Lisp for personal projects to avoid techbro bullshit.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago

lisp went big in the leadup to the AI winter, which followed a lot of fraudulent nonsense that even the DoD would only buy for so long

so in that sense it's in character

[–] BurgersMcSlopshot@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

eyes copy of ANSI Common Lisp written by Paul Graham

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Picard frowning at the mirror universe edition of the bible

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] mirrorwitch@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago

I am in fact moving back to NetBSD, but the ambiguity of their LLM policy makes me wary/tired.

My only hope is that NetBSD moves so slowly anyway that the devs' traditional preference towards clean, minimalistic readable code above all else holds off any "slop commits verified by maintainers" long enough that the bubble pops before slop gets any of its clawdes in core code at least.

[–] notptr@lemmy.cyberia9.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] schnoopy@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

We are not worthy