▲ 396 ▼ Bernie Sanders tells OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta to pause AI development or face Senate action (www.techspot.com) submitted 1 month ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/technology@lemmy.world 180 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) So if someone on the internet calls you a thief and I see it, you're a thief? Think this through. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) So in order to counter my point, you make a false equivalence. Cool. Try again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) Says the person who set up a strawman about what you imagine might say about the first amendment vs freedom of speech. lol I'll make this easy. An accusation is not evidence, let alone proof. That is not up for debate; it's a fact. You can be accused of literally anything. I tried to hold your hand and walk you there, but that clearly wasn't working. Would you even want it to work the way you did falsely believe it works? Do you want any allegation to be enough to label someone a criminal? Have you spent even 30 seconds considering the implications of this? Seems not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) We are not a court of law. We can see crimes happening and call them crimes. If you think that ignoring evidence is fine, that's up to you. I personally like to look at the evidence and make conclusions, like these crimes AI companies are doing, are crimes. Did the AI companies think about for 30 seconds about how doing crimes looks like doing crimes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago* (5 children) If you're not a lawyer I doubt you even know enough about the law to determine what counts as a crime, and you certainly don't have all the evidence. Here, I'll toss you what should be an easy one: what crime? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) Violation of copyright/piracy :P Among many many many other crimes. I'll take the word of the US copyright office who says that it is not fair use over your word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children) Make your case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The US copyright office wrote up a pretty large paper pointing out it's piracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Source? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago "But making commercial use of vast troves of copyrighted works to produce expressive content that competes with them in existing markets, especially where this is accomplished through illegal access, goes beyond established fair use boundaries. " https://www.copyright.gov/ai/Copyright-and-Artificial-Intelligence-Part-3-Generative-AI-Training-Report-Pre-Publication-Version.pdf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) So in order to counter my point, you make a false equivalence. Cool. Try again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) Says the person who set up a strawman about what you imagine might say about the first amendment vs freedom of speech. lol I'll make this easy. An accusation is not evidence, let alone proof. That is not up for debate; it's a fact. You can be accused of literally anything. I tried to hold your hand and walk you there, but that clearly wasn't working. Would you even want it to work the way you did falsely believe it works? Do you want any allegation to be enough to label someone a criminal? Have you spent even 30 seconds considering the implications of this? Seems not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) We are not a court of law. We can see crimes happening and call them crimes. If you think that ignoring evidence is fine, that's up to you. I personally like to look at the evidence and make conclusions, like these crimes AI companies are doing, are crimes. Did the AI companies think about for 30 seconds about how doing crimes looks like doing crimes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago* (5 children) If you're not a lawyer I doubt you even know enough about the law to determine what counts as a crime, and you certainly don't have all the evidence. Here, I'll toss you what should be an easy one: what crime? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) Violation of copyright/piracy :P Among many many many other crimes. I'll take the word of the US copyright office who says that it is not fair use over your word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children) Make your case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The US copyright office wrote up a pretty large paper pointing out it's piracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Source? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago "But making commercial use of vast troves of copyrighted works to produce expressive content that competes with them in existing markets, especially where this is accomplished through illegal access, goes beyond established fair use boundaries. " https://www.copyright.gov/ai/Copyright-and-Artificial-Intelligence-Part-3-Generative-AI-Training-Report-Pre-Publication-Version.pdf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) Says the person who set up a strawman about what you imagine might say about the first amendment vs freedom of speech. lol I'll make this easy. An accusation is not evidence, let alone proof. That is not up for debate; it's a fact. You can be accused of literally anything. I tried to hold your hand and walk you there, but that clearly wasn't working. Would you even want it to work the way you did falsely believe it works? Do you want any allegation to be enough to label someone a criminal? Have you spent even 30 seconds considering the implications of this? Seems not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) We are not a court of law. We can see crimes happening and call them crimes. If you think that ignoring evidence is fine, that's up to you. I personally like to look at the evidence and make conclusions, like these crimes AI companies are doing, are crimes. Did the AI companies think about for 30 seconds about how doing crimes looks like doing crimes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago* (5 children) If you're not a lawyer I doubt you even know enough about the law to determine what counts as a crime, and you certainly don't have all the evidence. Here, I'll toss you what should be an easy one: what crime? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) Violation of copyright/piracy :P Among many many many other crimes. I'll take the word of the US copyright office who says that it is not fair use over your word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children) Make your case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The US copyright office wrote up a pretty large paper pointing out it's piracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Source? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago "But making commercial use of vast troves of copyrighted works to produce expressive content that competes with them in existing markets, especially where this is accomplished through illegal access, goes beyond established fair use boundaries. " https://www.copyright.gov/ai/Copyright-and-Artificial-Intelligence-Part-3-Generative-AI-Training-Report-Pre-Publication-Version.pdf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) We are not a court of law. We can see crimes happening and call them crimes. If you think that ignoring evidence is fine, that's up to you. I personally like to look at the evidence and make conclusions, like these crimes AI companies are doing, are crimes. Did the AI companies think about for 30 seconds about how doing crimes looks like doing crimes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago* (5 children) If you're not a lawyer I doubt you even know enough about the law to determine what counts as a crime, and you certainly don't have all the evidence. Here, I'll toss you what should be an easy one: what crime? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) Violation of copyright/piracy :P Among many many many other crimes. I'll take the word of the US copyright office who says that it is not fair use over your word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children) Make your case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The US copyright office wrote up a pretty large paper pointing out it's piracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Source? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago "But making commercial use of vast troves of copyrighted works to produce expressive content that competes with them in existing markets, especially where this is accomplished through illegal access, goes beyond established fair use boundaries. " https://www.copyright.gov/ai/Copyright-and-Artificial-Intelligence-Part-3-Generative-AI-Training-Report-Pre-Publication-Version.pdf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago* (5 children) If you're not a lawyer I doubt you even know enough about the law to determine what counts as a crime, and you certainly don't have all the evidence. Here, I'll toss you what should be an easy one: what crime? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) Violation of copyright/piracy :P Among many many many other crimes. I'll take the word of the US copyright office who says that it is not fair use over your word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children) Make your case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The US copyright office wrote up a pretty large paper pointing out it's piracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Source? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago "But making commercial use of vast troves of copyrighted works to produce expressive content that competes with them in existing markets, especially where this is accomplished through illegal access, goes beyond established fair use boundaries. " https://www.copyright.gov/ai/Copyright-and-Artificial-Intelligence-Part-3-Generative-AI-Training-Report-Pre-Publication-Version.pdf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) Violation of copyright/piracy :P Among many many many other crimes. I'll take the word of the US copyright office who says that it is not fair use over your word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children) Make your case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The US copyright office wrote up a pretty large paper pointing out it's piracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Source? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago "But making commercial use of vast troves of copyrighted works to produce expressive content that competes with them in existing markets, especially where this is accomplished through illegal access, goes beyond established fair use boundaries. " https://www.copyright.gov/ai/Copyright-and-Artificial-Intelligence-Part-3-Generative-AI-Training-Report-Pre-Publication-Version.pdf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children) Make your case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The US copyright office wrote up a pretty large paper pointing out it's piracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Source? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago "But making commercial use of vast troves of copyrighted works to produce expressive content that competes with them in existing markets, especially where this is accomplished through illegal access, goes beyond established fair use boundaries. " https://www.copyright.gov/ai/Copyright-and-Artificial-Intelligence-Part-3-Generative-AI-Training-Report-Pre-Publication-Version.pdf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The US copyright office wrote up a pretty large paper pointing out it's piracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Source? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago "But making commercial use of vast troves of copyrighted works to produce expressive content that competes with them in existing markets, especially where this is accomplished through illegal access, goes beyond established fair use boundaries. " https://www.copyright.gov/ai/Copyright-and-Artificial-Intelligence-Part-3-Generative-AI-Training-Report-Pre-Publication-Version.pdf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Source? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago "But making commercial use of vast troves of copyrighted works to produce expressive content that competes with them in existing markets, especially where this is accomplished through illegal access, goes beyond established fair use boundaries. " https://www.copyright.gov/ai/Copyright-and-Artificial-Intelligence-Part-3-Generative-AI-Training-Report-Pre-Publication-Version.pdf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago "But making commercial use of vast troves of copyrighted works to produce expressive content that competes with them in existing markets, especially where this is accomplished through illegal access, goes beyond established fair use boundaries. " https://www.copyright.gov/ai/Copyright-and-Artificial-Intelligence-Part-3-Generative-AI-Training-Report-Pre-Publication-Version.pdf permalink fedilink source parent