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[–] 45 points 1 month ago (85 children)

Any pause will have to be a global treaty; the unfortunate reality is that we're in an arms race now, and despite Sanders' threats otherwise, I don't think there is going to be much will to pause in the US while China keeps developing.

And to be clear, I think it would be every wise to pause development and, afterwards, keep the pace slow. We know how to make "AI" more capable, but we don't know how to make it stay aligned with human goals. The technology is useful and isn't going anywhere, but that doesn't mean we have to develop it as quickly as possible without regard to the real dangers it brings with it.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 month ago (58 children)

    Any pause will have to be a global treaty

    Which is why tech CEOs love to promote it. They know it'll never happen.

    We know how to make “AI” more capable, but we don’t know how to make it stay aligned with human goals.

    "Alignment" is almost entirely a myth cooked up by AI companies who want to make their word generators sound scarier than they are. There's no such thing: the next word generator generates next word. It's unpredictable because it's built that way. "Hallucination" and "going rogue", all poor terms and pathetic attempts to fearmonger and humanize, are identical functions to "working" and "aligning".

    The technology... isn’t going anywhere

    The "it's just inevitable" cliche rears its ugly head again.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (28 children)

    That cliche is the worst. If applied to anything else you can see how absurd it is. Like NFTs aren't going anywhere, crime isn't going anywhere, etc.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (27 children)

    Except NFTs were never used to nearly even close to the same amount as AI, it had much less usecases and the one that did "catch on" was idiotic.

    Crime is a symptom of a problem, not a technological advancement, apples and oranges.

    AI the tool is never going away in the same way the internet is never going away. (Barring our entire civilization collapses and we lose knowledge/connectivity/life lmao)

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (26 children)

    "AI is never going away" neither did NFTs nor crime, nor anything else really. We should try to stop these awful companies from doing awful things.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (21 children)

    The point of the "its not going away" comment is because a shocking number of people think the solution to AI is to, I dunno, delete it.

    As a technology, it is out in the world. It isn't going away any more than electricity or the internet. So any solutions to the real problems with AI that are essentially "make it go away" are essentially nonsense. Might as well propose wishing it away with a genie.

    "It's not going away" is not equivalent to "there's nothing we can do to solve the problems"; it just means that the solution has to be in a framework where it is implemented alongside AI.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (18 children)

    We’re not in an arms race. That’s part of the bullshit Anthropic and like want you to believe. LLMs are not nukes. LLMs are a fad with most benefits having been to coders, presuming they were already good coders.

    25 years from now we’re either going to still be in this “arms race,” or we’ll have better clarity on how the billionaire class misled us all.

    Stopping development will do us more good than the harm of perusing a perpetual wealth transfer in the name of a fake arms race.

    Even if it were an arms race. Slowing down means you eventually speed back up in a better direction. Why would you want to be so gun ho about what’s clearly an argument for progressing with arrogance toward the technology, because someone else might discover something first? What?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    Arms race

    Woah, we're talking LLMs here, this is not a secret military technology. And China is very open about the developments made there - you can freely study and reverse engineer plenty of Chinese models, and see all the weights out in the open.

    This whole race about them is, in my opinion, nothing but trying to pump the bubble even faster, churning the economy in the process and playing on gullible or self-interested politicians. Countries will be just fine assessing risks and then moving on.

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    [–] 36 points 1 month ago (17 children)

    Stop with the threats and just fucking do it. This shit is why everyone thinks the Dems are useless.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    If he can get senate action on AI then why can't he get senate action on all the other plethora of crap happening to us right now?

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  • [–] 36 points 1 month ago

    He cant, but he wants to. Which is important.

    We should never take something away from an action with good intentions, just because others want to stop him.

    Thats not how we get the change in the end. Because someday it might succeed.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Stop the investment, most importantly.

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    [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    They bought the senate Bernie

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    What Senate action will he take? Have a hearing when the senators will try to get sound bites in for reelection?

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    [–] 9 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    This is playing into their hand. “Oh your tech is so amazing and powerful and must be paused!”

    Nah. It’s a bullshit bubble that’s threatening to tear down world order, or what’s left of it.

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    [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    This comment section is the dumbest thing I've ever read.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    oh good luck with that bernie.. while he's not wrong, there's too much money passing hands for this to be a threat

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Did he buy into their hype claims of sentient AI?

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    [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Onward the Butlerian Jihad! No prisoners!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    Bernie Sanders is a politician, he should tell the public how he plans to add safety mechanisms and safeguards to AI. Granting the government and corporations full authority and control over it while limiting public access is how you turn AI into a digital nuclear weapon.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    I rarely see a criticism of Bernie Sanders that isn't some form of perfect solution fallacy and this comment is not one of them.

    I'm sorry, like "Yes" but also, SIGH.

    Cuz like;

    1. He's been doing this 70 years and he's said it all already.

    2. He's been doing this 70 years and he's too old to be the guy directing AI.

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    [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I too can say the right thing consistently with no meaningful action!

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