▲ 898 ▼ Amazon's New AI Data Center Is So Enormous That It Appears It Will Become the Largest Single Source of Pollution in the United States (futurism.com) submitted 1 month ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 156 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] joe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (5 children) You consider what I've said to be "Pro AI"? lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Lojcs@piefed.social 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Why else would you ask the source of a claim we all feel in our gut? Don't you know you're either with us or against us? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago I make a distinction between feeling correct and being correct. permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) OK what is your stance towards AI? You always seem to be defending "it" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child) My stance towards AI is complicated. I think it's an amazing technology with the potential to change the world for the better, but also the potential to change the world for the worse. I don't trust it in the hands of giant for-profit corporations, and think we should, among other things, legislate some regulations to ensure transparency and prevent it from being used in ways harmful to privacy and democracy. I also acknowledge that technological advances don't go in reverse, and AI is never going away. Does that answer your question? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 1 point 1 month ago It does. If not for the environmental impact which makes it an absolute no-no for the foreseeable future I might even agree with you except that my divided stance already starts one step earlier: I think it’s an amazing technology Maybe it was that 10 years ago but I find it hard to see it that way when people constantly state that they don't even know what's happening inside it (black box) and that whatever development has happened since then was heavily if not completely influenced by interests of power & money. That said, there might be some models out there that have little or nothing to do with the mainstream development, and I recognize that, but I would not call them AI writ large - that's what Big Tech does as described above. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lojcs@piefed.social 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Why else would you ask the source of a claim we all feel in our gut? Don't you know you're either with us or against us? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago I make a distinction between feeling correct and being correct. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago I make a distinction between feeling correct and being correct. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) OK what is your stance towards AI? You always seem to be defending "it" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child) My stance towards AI is complicated. I think it's an amazing technology with the potential to change the world for the better, but also the potential to change the world for the worse. I don't trust it in the hands of giant for-profit corporations, and think we should, among other things, legislate some regulations to ensure transparency and prevent it from being used in ways harmful to privacy and democracy. I also acknowledge that technological advances don't go in reverse, and AI is never going away. Does that answer your question? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 1 point 1 month ago It does. If not for the environmental impact which makes it an absolute no-no for the foreseeable future I might even agree with you except that my divided stance already starts one step earlier: I think it’s an amazing technology Maybe it was that 10 years ago but I find it hard to see it that way when people constantly state that they don't even know what's happening inside it (black box) and that whatever development has happened since then was heavily if not completely influenced by interests of power & money. That said, there might be some models out there that have little or nothing to do with the mainstream development, and I recognize that, but I would not call them AI writ large - that's what Big Tech does as described above. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child) My stance towards AI is complicated. I think it's an amazing technology with the potential to change the world for the better, but also the potential to change the world for the worse. I don't trust it in the hands of giant for-profit corporations, and think we should, among other things, legislate some regulations to ensure transparency and prevent it from being used in ways harmful to privacy and democracy. I also acknowledge that technological advances don't go in reverse, and AI is never going away. Does that answer your question? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 1 point 1 month ago It does. If not for the environmental impact which makes it an absolute no-no for the foreseeable future I might even agree with you except that my divided stance already starts one step earlier: I think it’s an amazing technology Maybe it was that 10 years ago but I find it hard to see it that way when people constantly state that they don't even know what's happening inside it (black box) and that whatever development has happened since then was heavily if not completely influenced by interests of power & money. That said, there might be some models out there that have little or nothing to do with the mainstream development, and I recognize that, but I would not call them AI writ large - that's what Big Tech does as described above. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 1 point 1 month ago It does. If not for the environmental impact which makes it an absolute no-no for the foreseeable future I might even agree with you except that my divided stance already starts one step earlier: I think it’s an amazing technology Maybe it was that 10 years ago but I find it hard to see it that way when people constantly state that they don't even know what's happening inside it (black box) and that whatever development has happened since then was heavily if not completely influenced by interests of power & money. That said, there might be some models out there that have little or nothing to do with the mainstream development, and I recognize that, but I would not call them AI writ large - that's what Big Tech does as described above. permalink fedilink source parent