In all fairness an argument could be made that using generated images feeds the hype capitalists create around "AI". eg. "Look even anarchists are using it". Obviously they completely ignore the anti-capitalist sentiment or the fact that the models were running on local hardware.

However I don't really think this matters, Our corner of the internet is small and no-one is going to subscribe to gemini because they saw some artwork generated here. Although I guess posting "This was made with locally. Fuck Corporations." below every post wouldn't hurt.

Copying data is not stealing period. Making a copy of 1s and 0s does not deprive people of the work.

I never said it did, and it is baffling that you think that's my argument. I don't really fucking care about the data. I care that people are fairly compensated for their work, whatever "fair" means relative to the economic system. Under communism or Democratic Confederalism, that's taken care of by the community's collective work. Under socialism, that's taken care of by something like UBI. Under capitalism, that's supposed to be taken care of solely by The Market™. We have the last one, and the 1's and 0's and their relative scarcity is what gives them Market™ value. Copying reduces scarcity, thereby reducing the value and compensation that artists should be getting.

You don't have to like it for this to still be people's material reality that they must work with right now.

This idea of ownership of ideas is insulting to the idea of art. It turns it into a commodity to be sold. Not something to be enjoyed.

Of course it's insulting. This isn't about copying, it's about ensuring people can eat while stuck in capitalism. Let me say it plainly so you can understand: Capitalism sucks, I don't like it, and neither do you. It does not suddenly stop ceasing to affect people just because a relative few people reject it.

I imagine you still have a job, because you, too, need to buy food and pay rent. You don't defeat capitalism by covering your eyes and pretending it's not there.

You act as if copying exists in a vacuum, and pirating doesn't produce harm. Both are false, so the question is: who are you harming? Corporations? Great, sign me the fuck up. Regular people like artists? You're doing the dirty work of capitalists. They love to see us fighting amongst ourselves, and stealing from each other is just another way to do that.

And so it's not just 1's and 0's when it comes to art (again, in this capitalist's wet dream, because you seem to have trouble remembering context). That's what AI apologists and pirates tell themselves so they don't have to feel bad about stealing an artist's livelihood. It's right up there with, "It's just leveling the playing field," as if artists are some elite group hoarding a skill and not craftsman who have honed their skill for years.

Would love to hear a real explanation but I doubt I'll get one, this reeks of the same anti-AI brain rot people from Fuck_AI vomit at me and db0 users constantly. AKA people saying I suck Sam Altman's dick. Which is funny because I can't stand Sam Altman or OpenAI.

Where did your models come from? Who trained them, and with what data? If it was via the mass copying of artists' work without their consent, then you are fine with using models trained upon stolen work, just like the billionaires who created it.

Just like the billionaires who are practically begging everyone to use AI. And yet here you are, "running your own local models," as if normalization isn't part of billionaires' strategy. You do exactly what they want like a good little pawn, and you don't even realize it.

Is fitting because that is 100% how you are acting. Anarchism isn't like Gender, you don't get to just identify as an anarchist and belay the meaning of what it stands for without people calling you out. Anarchists do not apologize for copyright and ownership of ideas.

"No True Scotsman" harder. Anarchists aren't a monolith with one ideology, and you aren't the gatekeeper of Anarchism. I have no idea what you think anarchists are, but some of us realize the consequences of our actions, because we care what those consequences are. Anarchists like you seem to only care about yourselves and what you can get. "Fuck you, got mine." Now which ideology thinks like that...?

If every anarchist thought and acted like you, we'd never have systems like Democratic Confederalism or commun(al)ism, because we'd be too busy fucking each other over to actually achieve what we want.

Accepting that capitalism is right in front of us is not apologia, it's accepting reality, and it's a fact that we have to contend with.

And now the ad hominems. You're just a bag of fallacies, aren't you? "It doesn't need a complex rebuttal," is all the proof anyone needs that you don't have an argument. You just don't want to feel bad about being a class traitor.