▲ 1519 ▼ LG smart TVs caught logging audio with screen off and snooping on local devices (www.notebookcheck.net) submitted 3 weeks ago by schizoidman@lemmy.zip to c/technology@lemmy.world 361 comments fedilink hide all child comments An investigation by Gamers Nexus found LG smart TVs sweep local networks to map phones and nearby devices. Tests also showed the sets can capture microphone audio with the screen off — they then upload data once reconnected to the internet.
[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 127 points 3 weeks ago (25 children) Problem us that there are too few tech literate politicians permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] inari@piefed.zip 119 points 3 weeks ago The problem is way worse: big tech contributes tobribes politicians to vote according to industry interests. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nuko147@lemmy.world 58 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Problem is lobbying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 32 points 3 weeks ago ding-ding-ding AKA legal corruption permalink fedilink source parent [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago The problem is the system that allows for corruption to exist in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (17 children) It's not the politicians job to know everything but to make decisions and legislate based on information from the expertise. It is the people in the know that need to make the proposals for the politicians to bring it up. It's us, the tech literate, that need to write proposals that are informative with arguments derived from trusted sources to make the politicians aware that these are concerns that need to be addressed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago (7 children) Sadly, I don't have time or money to do that. You know who does? Big tech does! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) Let's all lie belly up and do nothing and accept that nothing will ever change for the better because nobody else is doing it for us and it is impossible for us to change the world all alone. This is exactly the defeatist mindset that the economic elites want people to have. You could do something small, like find out your representatives and write a personal mail to them, informing them from your point of view. With enough people doing small things and some doing big things the chances for things like this gaining traction are magnitudes bigger than giving up in advance. It takes a few hours to a few days depending on your dedication and whatever cost coffee is in your area of residence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children) It's so refreshing finding someone with that kind of opinion. I feel less lonely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I can't tell if this comment thread is filled with doomer basement dweller defeatists that use their worldview as excuse to not even try or foreign bot farms pushing said agenda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago It can be both. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago Yeah sorry, it's not just time and money,but also skill. I'm not the person you choose to convince people to do something. That's why we choose representatives. That's why we vote. permalink fedilink source parent [–] architect@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) You have the time. Get off the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago Can't you see I'm working right now?! permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago The fucked up part is that "expertise" is assumed to be exclusively found in the industry being regulated. Bill Gates is a respected industry expert, but RMS is just some dumbfuck nobody because he's not "in the industry". permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) It is the people in the know that need to make the proposals No, it's the politician's job to get in touch with experts of any given field. They prefer lobbyists instead because they are corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) After proposals come in, yes. If the only proposals coming in are from lobbyists of various corporations and interest groups, guess which matters are going to be on the table? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) You're still portraying the politician as a passive entity, they're not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago And you seem to think that EU politics is a closed court accessible only for political royalty, which it is not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bedwyr@piefed.ca -2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) It is a politicians job to know what they are doing in fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Read at least the entire first sentence before you feel the need to comment, my dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bedwyr@piefed.ca -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Don't lead with garbage, how about that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago And this, kids, is why reading comprehension is so important. Don't let media consumption rot your brain into a two second attention span that leaves you confused and angry by information beyond the rudimentary crafted to pander your reality tunnel. Yes, Timmy you are correct. Before algorithmic video slop, very similar effects were observed from exposure to lead, and that's why it was phased out of society. That does explain why your gramps is angrily waving his cane at anything complex for which there is no simple solution. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago They could educate themselves or hire help, if they weren't corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago It's not principally they aren't tech savy, it s that the politicians are corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent [–] M137@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago Maybe read what you write? No reason to make yourself look so dumb (and just to state the obvious, I'm not disagreeing at all, just pointing out what should be obvious but apparently isn't). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] inari@piefed.zip 119 points 3 weeks ago The problem is way worse: big tech contributes tobribes politicians to vote according to industry interests. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 58 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Problem is lobbying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 32 points 3 weeks ago ding-ding-ding AKA legal corruption permalink fedilink source parent [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago The problem is the system that allows for corruption to exist in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 32 points 3 weeks ago ding-ding-ding AKA legal corruption permalink fedilink source parent
[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago The problem is the system that allows for corruption to exist in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (17 children) It's not the politicians job to know everything but to make decisions and legislate based on information from the expertise. It is the people in the know that need to make the proposals for the politicians to bring it up. It's us, the tech literate, that need to write proposals that are informative with arguments derived from trusted sources to make the politicians aware that these are concerns that need to be addressed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago (7 children) Sadly, I don't have time or money to do that. You know who does? Big tech does! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) Let's all lie belly up and do nothing and accept that nothing will ever change for the better because nobody else is doing it for us and it is impossible for us to change the world all alone. This is exactly the defeatist mindset that the economic elites want people to have. You could do something small, like find out your representatives and write a personal mail to them, informing them from your point of view. With enough people doing small things and some doing big things the chances for things like this gaining traction are magnitudes bigger than giving up in advance. It takes a few hours to a few days depending on your dedication and whatever cost coffee is in your area of residence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children) It's so refreshing finding someone with that kind of opinion. I feel less lonely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I can't tell if this comment thread is filled with doomer basement dweller defeatists that use their worldview as excuse to not even try or foreign bot farms pushing said agenda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago It can be both. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago Yeah sorry, it's not just time and money,but also skill. I'm not the person you choose to convince people to do something. That's why we choose representatives. That's why we vote. permalink fedilink source parent [–] architect@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) You have the time. Get off the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago Can't you see I'm working right now?! permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago The fucked up part is that "expertise" is assumed to be exclusively found in the industry being regulated. Bill Gates is a respected industry expert, but RMS is just some dumbfuck nobody because he's not "in the industry". permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) It is the people in the know that need to make the proposals No, it's the politician's job to get in touch with experts of any given field. They prefer lobbyists instead because they are corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) After proposals come in, yes. If the only proposals coming in are from lobbyists of various corporations and interest groups, guess which matters are going to be on the table? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) You're still portraying the politician as a passive entity, they're not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago And you seem to think that EU politics is a closed court accessible only for political royalty, which it is not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bedwyr@piefed.ca -2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) It is a politicians job to know what they are doing in fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Read at least the entire first sentence before you feel the need to comment, my dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bedwyr@piefed.ca -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Don't lead with garbage, how about that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago And this, kids, is why reading comprehension is so important. Don't let media consumption rot your brain into a two second attention span that leaves you confused and angry by information beyond the rudimentary crafted to pander your reality tunnel. Yes, Timmy you are correct. Before algorithmic video slop, very similar effects were observed from exposure to lead, and that's why it was phased out of society. That does explain why your gramps is angrily waving his cane at anything complex for which there is no simple solution. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago (7 children) Sadly, I don't have time or money to do that. You know who does? Big tech does! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) Let's all lie belly up and do nothing and accept that nothing will ever change for the better because nobody else is doing it for us and it is impossible for us to change the world all alone. This is exactly the defeatist mindset that the economic elites want people to have. You could do something small, like find out your representatives and write a personal mail to them, informing them from your point of view. With enough people doing small things and some doing big things the chances for things like this gaining traction are magnitudes bigger than giving up in advance. It takes a few hours to a few days depending on your dedication and whatever cost coffee is in your area of residence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children) It's so refreshing finding someone with that kind of opinion. I feel less lonely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I can't tell if this comment thread is filled with doomer basement dweller defeatists that use their worldview as excuse to not even try or foreign bot farms pushing said agenda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago It can be both. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago Yeah sorry, it's not just time and money,but also skill. I'm not the person you choose to convince people to do something. That's why we choose representatives. That's why we vote. permalink fedilink source parent [–] architect@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) You have the time. Get off the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago Can't you see I'm working right now?! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) Let's all lie belly up and do nothing and accept that nothing will ever change for the better because nobody else is doing it for us and it is impossible for us to change the world all alone. This is exactly the defeatist mindset that the economic elites want people to have. You could do something small, like find out your representatives and write a personal mail to them, informing them from your point of view. With enough people doing small things and some doing big things the chances for things like this gaining traction are magnitudes bigger than giving up in advance. It takes a few hours to a few days depending on your dedication and whatever cost coffee is in your area of residence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children) It's so refreshing finding someone with that kind of opinion. I feel less lonely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I can't tell if this comment thread is filled with doomer basement dweller defeatists that use their worldview as excuse to not even try or foreign bot farms pushing said agenda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago It can be both. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago Yeah sorry, it's not just time and money,but also skill. I'm not the person you choose to convince people to do something. That's why we choose representatives. That's why we vote. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children) It's so refreshing finding someone with that kind of opinion. I feel less lonely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I can't tell if this comment thread is filled with doomer basement dweller defeatists that use their worldview as excuse to not even try or foreign bot farms pushing said agenda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago It can be both. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I can't tell if this comment thread is filled with doomer basement dweller defeatists that use their worldview as excuse to not even try or foreign bot farms pushing said agenda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago It can be both. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago Yeah sorry, it's not just time and money,but also skill. I'm not the person you choose to convince people to do something. That's why we choose representatives. That's why we vote. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] architect@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) You have the time. Get off the internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago Can't you see I'm working right now?! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago Can't you see I'm working right now?! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago The fucked up part is that "expertise" is assumed to be exclusively found in the industry being regulated. Bill Gates is a respected industry expert, but RMS is just some dumbfuck nobody because he's not "in the industry". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) It is the people in the know that need to make the proposals No, it's the politician's job to get in touch with experts of any given field. They prefer lobbyists instead because they are corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) After proposals come in, yes. If the only proposals coming in are from lobbyists of various corporations and interest groups, guess which matters are going to be on the table? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) You're still portraying the politician as a passive entity, they're not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago And you seem to think that EU politics is a closed court accessible only for political royalty, which it is not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) After proposals come in, yes. If the only proposals coming in are from lobbyists of various corporations and interest groups, guess which matters are going to be on the table? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) You're still portraying the politician as a passive entity, they're not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago And you seem to think that EU politics is a closed court accessible only for political royalty, which it is not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) You're still portraying the politician as a passive entity, they're not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago And you seem to think that EU politics is a closed court accessible only for political royalty, which it is not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago And you seem to think that EU politics is a closed court accessible only for political royalty, which it is not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca -2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) It is a politicians job to know what they are doing in fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Read at least the entire first sentence before you feel the need to comment, my dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bedwyr@piefed.ca -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Don't lead with garbage, how about that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago And this, kids, is why reading comprehension is so important. Don't let media consumption rot your brain into a two second attention span that leaves you confused and angry by information beyond the rudimentary crafted to pander your reality tunnel. Yes, Timmy you are correct. Before algorithmic video slop, very similar effects were observed from exposure to lead, and that's why it was phased out of society. That does explain why your gramps is angrily waving his cane at anything complex for which there is no simple solution. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Read at least the entire first sentence before you feel the need to comment, my dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bedwyr@piefed.ca -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Don't lead with garbage, how about that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago And this, kids, is why reading comprehension is so important. Don't let media consumption rot your brain into a two second attention span that leaves you confused and angry by information beyond the rudimentary crafted to pander your reality tunnel. Yes, Timmy you are correct. Before algorithmic video slop, very similar effects were observed from exposure to lead, and that's why it was phased out of society. That does explain why your gramps is angrily waving his cane at anything complex for which there is no simple solution. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Don't lead with garbage, how about that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago And this, kids, is why reading comprehension is so important. Don't let media consumption rot your brain into a two second attention span that leaves you confused and angry by information beyond the rudimentary crafted to pander your reality tunnel. Yes, Timmy you are correct. Before algorithmic video slop, very similar effects were observed from exposure to lead, and that's why it was phased out of society. That does explain why your gramps is angrily waving his cane at anything complex for which there is no simple solution. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago And this, kids, is why reading comprehension is so important. Don't let media consumption rot your brain into a two second attention span that leaves you confused and angry by information beyond the rudimentary crafted to pander your reality tunnel. Yes, Timmy you are correct. Before algorithmic video slop, very similar effects were observed from exposure to lead, and that's why it was phased out of society. That does explain why your gramps is angrily waving his cane at anything complex for which there is no simple solution. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago They could educate themselves or hire help, if they weren't corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago It's not principally they aren't tech savy, it s that the politicians are corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M137@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago Maybe read what you write? No reason to make yourself look so dumb (and just to state the obvious, I'm not disagreeing at all, just pointing out what should be obvious but apparently isn't). permalink fedilink source parent