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German police read Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp messages without breaking encryption (cybernews.com)
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cross-posted from : https://lemmy.zip/post/71321898

Netzpoltik details that police are able to gain access in this way either through physical access to someone’s phone or by intercepting verification codes via a state-sanctioned phishing attack or intercepting SMS messages via telephone surveillance

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[–] -1 points 3 weeks ago* (9 children)

give me a list of messaging apps that stop attacks that leverage physical access.

use a better os that has encryption and kill codes if that's your concern.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    give me a list of messaging apps that stop attacks that leverage physical access.

    you know what would solve this? simplex.

    um...

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    either through physical access to someone’s phone OR by intercepting verification codes via a state-sanctioned phishing attack OR intercepting SMS messages via telephone surveillance

    why are you so against people using a more secure way to communicate?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    the only time they mention signal is when they explain they used linked devices to obtain signal messages. not SMS! if you lose your phone or whatever, and log in on a new device, your messages won't magically reappear, they are lost, and all your contacts get a warning that your safety numbers have changed.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    simplex messages stay on your phone. you can't switch phones and have them follow you because there's no way to sign in because there's no account for you to sign in with.

    simplex doesn't require a phone number or email. the trust is made between users, keeping users safer because it requires physical access between users. sure you can share your code over SMS or otherwise, but that's a user issue that breaks usage policy, not a problem with the software.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    simplex messages stay on your phone

    I think that's what I said with signal too. the exception is you can have your messages follow you, if you still have the old phone, because the app supports transferring the data.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    if it can transfer the data, there's more opportunity to successfully steal it.

    convenience will always negate security.

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