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Throws grenade and runs (europe.pub)
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[–] -1 points 6 days ago (17 children)

I mean you can also run a generative modal locally using green energy, but try going into fuckai and telling them that.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    well yeah, some people care about the entire shit being built on theft. why wouldn't you care about that?

    oh they didn't steal from you. that's why you don't care.

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  • [–] -3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    It doesn't have to be built on theft. And what are your thoughts on piracy?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    it doesn't have to, but it always seems to be lol.

    book eating, literally stealing texts from future generations to feed llms.

    my thoughts on piracy? I don't pirate shit. And I certainly don't rip off entire chunks of humanity - the painters, musicians, authors etc., wholescale like llms do.

    you really just assume everyone is stealing therefor it's ok? how sad.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 days ago

    You're on Lemmy mate, don't bs me and tell me you think most people here don't pirate. People here will downvote you for calling piracy theft but then upvote you for accusing llms of stealing.

    And have you never downloaded a picture for a wallpaper, or to repost, send to friends, etc? Because that is equivalent to someone using a local model to do things. We are not talking large scale models, which seems to be what you keep shifting the conversation to. Anyway I'm tired if of this conversation, good bye.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    They are just going to start discussing the ethics of stolen training data

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  • [–] -2 points 5 days ago
    1. What are their thoughts on piracy?
    2. Have they ever saved an image they saw online to use in a different place (wallpaper, repost the meme, etc.)? What is so different from someone using it to train their own model which they use for themselves?
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  • [–] 3 points 5 days ago (9 children)

    It's a good thing that what kind of energy it runs on is the only problem with the technology and that we can cheaply generate the necessary amount of power at home.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 days ago (8 children)

    I mean, you certainly don't need any more energy than you would for video games, for most of the stuff people are looking to use at home.

    It is possible to generate it, but even if someone can't, I don't see the fuckai people yelling at game Devs for increasing requirements for so little gain, or at GPU Devs for not focusing enough on the draw power of GPUs. In fact, just 1 or 2 years ago I think, NVIDIA released a GPU generation that was only a little more powerful but had a lot more energy efficiency, and they got shat on by the internet because it wasn't powerful enough - no cared about the lower power draw.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago (7 children)

    oh yeah running a rack of gpus full out for inference and whatnot is exactly like playing some games.

    buuuullll SHIT.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    Also, tons of people have complained about the increasing power requirements of increasingly large GPUs, the increasing hardware demands of "AAA" games despite the low quality, etc... An entire universe of indie games has emerged in part because of that bullshit.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    You don't need all that to run local morals, don't straw man me.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    local morals

    lol. I know you mean local models, but also I suspect your local morals are lacking too considering the other comment.

    the inference and model construction take grunt bud; just because you're not doing it yourself doesn't make it free.

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  • [–] -3 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    No it doesn't, you are arguing in ignoring and this is pointless. Have a good one.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago

    No it doesn’t,

    the inference and model construction certainly do take more grunt, why are you fucking lying? what model do you use that was rolled on a home gpu?

    this is why I can't stand you AI shills, you'll create a bunch of strawman distractions, ignore the actual threats the tech poses, then pout when people don't believe your lies.

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