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[–] 13 points 1 week ago (11 children)

People grew food for eachother before capitalism. A book that opened my eyes to the various systems that people organized themselves under before capitalism monopolized world is The Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity by David Graeber and David Wengrow.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    People where mostly growing food for themselves and their family, not for each other. This changed when the first basic forms of capitalism where invented, things like markets, guilds, and skyrocketed with industrialization.

    No other system that we tried ever worked as good and produced so much peace and prosperity like capitalism. Is it perfect? Fuck no! Nothing that involves humans could ever be. But it is the best we have from a bunch of broken and fucked up systems.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 week ago* (6 children)

    Could you, though? Do you realize the level of knowledge, work, and risk that entailed?

    Unless you've actually done it and survived without external inputs like fertilizer, pesticides, emergency food, tools.... what do you know about growing your own food?

    You're living in a fantasy world.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I'm just saying there are more ways to form a society than exclusively through the complete control and exploitation of people and the environment like we've been doing for the last 100 years.

    Just because capitalism is the only way you know to live , doesn't mean it's the only way to live.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

    Can you describe one that is better?

    Whenever we tried something else in the last 150 years it created a living hell for nearly everyone who was lucky enough to survive. And what we had before that was not paradise either, far away from it.

    The problem is not capitalism but unchecked, uncontrolled capitalism.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    Name one socialist or communist society that wasn't embargoed, subverted, and eventually coup'ed by the US in order to "prove" those systems don't work?

    Your question is exactly the same as two of my friends holding you down while I piss in your face while asking why you like piss in your face.

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