A20 Pro vs Intel Ultra 7 Series 3

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[–] 42 points 3 days ago (31 children)

Actually insane they are beating desktop processors with a phone CPU.

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  • [–] 85 points 3 days ago (6 children)

    Not that crazy to beat a desktop CPU in specific category like this. This article went off the deep end when they made the comparison to the Huawei CPU. If you actually put one of these in a phone and spent any amount of time getting the kind of performance they're claiming it would almost immediately thermal throttle or cook itself. These comparisons are pointless.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 days ago* (2 children)

    Exactly what I wanted to say. On paper my pixel 1 was significantly faster then my pc at the time, an ancient core2quad q8400. In a lot of ways the phone did feel faster, then I tried to decompress a large 7z file on both of them and,despite using a mechanical hard drive, my pc took just over half as long.

    Now overall, there were a lot of things that chip could manage better than my desktop but the point is that using a single benchmark or benchmark suite that leans into the strengths of the hardware is pointless.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago

    having a high peak performance means you can underclock it, giving it less energy to get the same performance as before with less heat, meaning at the thermal throttle point it is that much faster than before

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    Yep, synthetic benchmarks aren't worth much outside of theoretical performance. Test a complete system as you can actually buy it and with an actual real-life workload - i'm sure the performance will still be good, but nowhere this outstanding.

    Edit: that doesn't even take into account the amount of times companies have been caught cheating on those tests, which is only possible because they are not a real life scenario

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  • [–] 19 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Eh, it's 2 years newer than the AMD architecture, on a better node, and has better memory packaging. I mean it's great they're getting this performance, but wait until Zen 6 for a contemporary architecture and node comparison.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 days ago

    I feel like I'm taking crazy pills every time Apple releases a CPU. Their designs are good but most of it is the new TSMC node they use. When others get access to the node the difference is not that large but then the cycle starts again.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago* (3 children)

    Except they aren't, outside of synthetic geekbench benchmark that is designed to produce this exact result...

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Geekbench is basically known for favoring Apple. It's the consumer pc equivalent of "my dad can beat up your dad" because it is all made up and not real.

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  • [+] -8 points 3 days ago (14 children)

    Yeah they have to distribute all that compute for a reason.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 days ago (12 children)

    You don’t own your iPhone, and you def ass don’t own the baseband chipset.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago (11 children)

    Are you saying that there's a conspiracy to build a giant distributed compute engine using our phones?

    What are they using it for?

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  • [–] -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

    Fam lookup TEE designs and all of the camera based processing that everyone is doing inherently. Then remove the TEE part.

    Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_execution_environment

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    I dont get your original comment though:

    Yeah they have to distribute all that compute for a reason.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    I know what a TEE is, that wasn't my question.

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