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[–] 15 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Shout out to Matrix, which is federated, self hostable, open source, and supports end to end encryption.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 days ago (6 children)

    Matrix is a bit of a shit show and also isn’t a discord alternative to begin with.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 days ago

    Matrix is a bit of a shit show

    How so?

    and also isn’t a discord alternative to begin with

    It absolutely is. A "Space" is the equivalent to a Discord "server". It's not perfect and polished, but it does the job. I've been using it rather than Discord with my gaming group for a year now.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    I've been using Matrix for over a decade now. How is it a shitshow?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 days ago* (1 child)

    I wouldn’t call it a shit show, they were first in E2E encrypted collaborative messaging platforms and get all the hits. Moderation turned out to be incompatible with E2E encryption. People kicked out of channels can still decrypt because keys revocation hasn’t been made.

    Matrix server is a resource hog and a mess, and the protocol has never took off to spark alternative implementations.

    Encryption doesn’t scale well for big channels.

    They got many things right, but got crippled by many things they couldn’t possibly predict.

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  • [–] -3 points 5 days ago

    The entire concept of it is a shit show. It's the prime example of anti user design.

    It's a functional system, with the entire concept of user friendly design and non power user being ignored.

    It's made by power users and engineers for power users and engineers. It's fantastic for what it is.

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