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A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.

Our Philosophies:

All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
Income inequality is the main cause of lower living standards.
Workers must join together and fight back for what is rightfully theirs.
We must not be divided and conquered. Workers gain the most when they focus on unifying issues.

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Higher wages for underpaid workers.
Better worker representation, including but not limited to unions.
Better and fewer working hours.
Stimulating a massive wave of worker organizing in the United States and beyond.
Organizing and supporting political causes and campaigns that put workers first.

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[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago (8 children)

That's not the case.

people round numbers. In a casual setting 8 minutes and 10 minutes are the same.
10 minutes without detectable vital signs is survivable, albeit extremely serious.
If you have sudden cardiac arrest and get CPR from a random bystander you have a 20% chance of surviving to leave the hospital. The sooner a defibrillator can restart the heart the better.
I'm not sure why you say they should have still had vitals with a heart attack. Most heart attacks don't leave you with none, but it's not all by any means. Lack of blood flow to the heart can easily cause it to stop beating.

Ultimately though, the part that matters is that the part you found implausible was the medical details, not that someone would go back to work shortly after a severe emergency while still concerned about their own sudden death because they can't afford to recover.

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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The sooner a defibrillator can restart the heart the better.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defibrillation

Defibrillators don't restart the heart, that's a common misconception. They effectively shock-reset it so that it can resume its normal beating rhythm.

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[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You are correct, it was a lazy-ish shortcut on my part.
The sooner a defibrillator can be used to induce the hearts electrical rhythm to resume ordered behavior and allow meaningful contractions to pump blood, the better.

Even more succinctly: YELL 911 AED CPR GOGOGO

The AED can only reset electric rythyms. Not every source of not having a pulse is due to chaotic electrical rhythm, not every electrical issue has a lack of pulse. "Stopped" and "restart" are ambiguous. I would generally forgive the usage of "not working" and "make start working" from anyone less trained than an EMT.

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[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 child)

Point at someone, name them by clothing, and tell them forcibly to call 911

Too many times people think someone else is calling 911

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[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

One thing I like about modern phones is that you can get to the emergency number from the lock screen or by hitting the power button a bunch quickly (depending on phone and settings), so it's easy for an individual to get a 911 call going and on speakerphone without delaying anything else.

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[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago

YELL 911 AED CPR GOGOGO

Checks for hazards before approaching
"Hey, hey! Are you ok‽"
Checks pulse, for no longer than 10 seconds
"Activate the emergency response system!"
One. Two. Three. Four...

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Random bystanders are way too concerned about breaking ribs.

If you see me on the ground with no heartbeat, break my fucking ribs when you do that shit. If you don't hear them snap, you aren't trying hard enough.

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[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 child)

Fun fact: people are often hesitant or uncomfortable to do effective AED and CPR on peeps with breasts because they either weren't taught about it or are too embarrassed. Get out my tits if I'm buying the farm. I'd rather my girls get exposed than fucking die.

For the curious: It's ok if you end up touching breast tissue when performing CPR. It happens, especially for those with large breasts.

When using an AED you need to expose the chest and remove/cut off the bra to get the pads placed correctly, to avoid arcing with an underwire, and to get gel on the skin under the pads.

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[–] someone@lemmy.today 1 point 2 days ago

The problem is that you may feel that way, but other people may not, and it's not always clear why someone may be passed out on the ground. There are also reasons like drugs, poverty, etc, and so if someone guesses and does upset someone, it can be a terrible situation for the person who has ripped a shirt and pushing down on someone's chest. I know I'll be downvoted for this, but laws very greatly on this most likely and I certainly don't know them. I appreciate your comment, and you're right that when in doubt people should try to do CPR, but also don't know how this can change in the real world for strangers or bystandards.

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