▲ 79 ▼ 'Break fast and move things' (europe.pub) submitted 5 days ago by 1Malayali@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 8 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Astronut@lemmy.zip -10 points 5 days ago (5 children) Get rid of republicans and we could! permalink fedilink source hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 27 points 5 days ago Getting rid of both Republicans and Democrats would be part of the process, not a precondition permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 23 points 5 days ago (2 children) Everyone on Lemmy already knows that Republicans suck; you’re repeatedly preaching to the choir. But even if we magically raptured all Republicans, this would still be a capitalist shithole, so please start thinking bigger. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFogan@programming.dev -4 points 5 days ago (1 child) I think that's about step 1... if the republicans were gone... more democrats would be challanged from the left. Either a real left wing party could be established. Or democrats would be able to consistantly be forced in the right direction. The biggest problem is the constant if we don't 100% unify quickly we risk the facists taking over and creating messes that will take 10 years of good policy to reverse even if we get a perfect candidate in, is the giant problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 days ago There are two major problems: The Democrats are a bourgeois party, they cannot be reformed from within because their entire base is the capitalist class. The state in the US isn't a neutral state, because the state is a product of class struggle. The state in the US is a capitalist state, one with the specific characteristics of a capitalist superstructure. You cannot reform this into socialism, you have to break it and replace it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 1Malayali@lemmy.ml [S] 2 points 5 days ago How do you rid of them? And I am not a USAmerican. Saw the meme and shared it because it was funny. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 27 points 5 days ago Getting rid of both Republicans and Democrats would be part of the process, not a precondition permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 23 points 5 days ago (2 children) Everyone on Lemmy already knows that Republicans suck; you’re repeatedly preaching to the choir. But even if we magically raptured all Republicans, this would still be a capitalist shithole, so please start thinking bigger. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFogan@programming.dev -4 points 5 days ago (1 child) I think that's about step 1... if the republicans were gone... more democrats would be challanged from the left. Either a real left wing party could be established. Or democrats would be able to consistantly be forced in the right direction. The biggest problem is the constant if we don't 100% unify quickly we risk the facists taking over and creating messes that will take 10 years of good policy to reverse even if we get a perfect candidate in, is the giant problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 days ago There are two major problems: The Democrats are a bourgeois party, they cannot be reformed from within because their entire base is the capitalist class. The state in the US isn't a neutral state, because the state is a product of class struggle. The state in the US is a capitalist state, one with the specific characteristics of a capitalist superstructure. You cannot reform this into socialism, you have to break it and replace it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFogan@programming.dev -4 points 5 days ago (1 child) I think that's about step 1... if the republicans were gone... more democrats would be challanged from the left. Either a real left wing party could be established. Or democrats would be able to consistantly be forced in the right direction. The biggest problem is the constant if we don't 100% unify quickly we risk the facists taking over and creating messes that will take 10 years of good policy to reverse even if we get a perfect candidate in, is the giant problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 days ago There are two major problems: The Democrats are a bourgeois party, they cannot be reformed from within because their entire base is the capitalist class. The state in the US isn't a neutral state, because the state is a product of class struggle. The state in the US is a capitalist state, one with the specific characteristics of a capitalist superstructure. You cannot reform this into socialism, you have to break it and replace it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 days ago There are two major problems: The Democrats are a bourgeois party, they cannot be reformed from within because their entire base is the capitalist class. The state in the US isn't a neutral state, because the state is a product of class struggle. The state in the US is a capitalist state, one with the specific characteristics of a capitalist superstructure. You cannot reform this into socialism, you have to break it and replace it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 1Malayali@lemmy.ml [S] 2 points 5 days ago How do you rid of them? And I am not a USAmerican. Saw the meme and shared it because it was funny. permalink fedilink source parent
