unless somethin new has happened, lemmy doesnt fully federate to mastodon/the twitterverse. interaction is very limited.
its one of the reasons i use mbin instead of lemmy
unless somethin new has happened, lemmy doesnt fully federate to mastodon/the twitterverse. interaction is very limited.
its one of the reasons i use mbin instead of lemmy
> @a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca said in Mastodon not federating to Lemmy?: > > So my question is, does anyone know what caused this and if so how I can fix it?
Mastodon doesn't know to send replies to the community for distribution to the rest of the threadiverse.
Long story short if you're not on the same instance as the community, Mastodon replies to you won't make it to the rest of the threadiverse.
I experimented with a hack to see if I could fix this. NodeBB works around this by including a hidden mention to the community that Mastodon will then pre-fill in the text box, and then the reply will make it in successfully. If you have a Mastodon account try to reply to this comment, the community will be pre-filled as a mention.
Piefed, Lemmy, and Mbin will need to do this.
Does it work? Yes
Are we supposed do it? Technically no, it's easier to blame Mastodon for not doing it right.
Should we do it? Probably, yes.
@rimu@piefed.social @nutomic@lemmy.ml @bentigorlich@gehirneimer.de @melroy@mastodon.melroy.org I tested this. It works perfectly fine. We can implement this today and remove it when Mastodon supports threadiverse conversations better (I'll try to make that happen.)
Good idea, adding this to Lemmy.
Unless the person replying on Mastodon removes it of course (to save themselves some characters and because they don't recognise it).
There doesn't seem any functional difference between your comment (which implicitly Mentions the community), and the original post on thecanadian.social (which explicitly Mentions it). Screenies from activitypub.academy show that replies to both include both Mentions pre-filled.


https://thecanadian.social/@mike/116234121499688717 didn't remove the Mention, and so the comment made it to Lemmy. https://mstdn.ca/@cass_m/116234270845317774 did remove the Mention, and so it didn't.
Specifically for Lemmy btw, the reply at https://mstdn.ca/@cass_m/116234270845317774 demonstrates another problem - that instance requires a signed GET request for its actors, which hasn't been fully implemented AFAIK.
Sounds good to me!
Did you receive my email from last Thursday? Seems there might be some delivery problem.
About batched votes? Yeah I did, just haven't responded yet 👍
I was asking Rimu, but good to get confirmation that it's working for you at least :)
Sorry - email is the channel which adds things to my todo list so when I get too busy I become avoidant about it. Just opening Thunderbird makes me a little anxious! "Ahh, yes, the app which brings more pain, here we go again"
Long story short if you’re not on the same instance as the community, Mastodon replies to you won’t make it to the rest of the threadiverse.
Oh... That explains a lot of. Thank you for sharing the cause and the solution (^_^)
I tested this. It works perfectly fine. We can implement this today and remove it when Mastodon supports threadiverse conversations better (I’ll try to make that happen.)
Wow that’s a really proactive response, thank you! Please keep me posted on how it goes
@julian @a_gee_dizzle @rimu @nutomic @BentiGorlich @melroy I’m replying from mastodon, don’t you see it ?
though the Lemmy comments were visible to me on Mastodon, the reverse was not true: most of the Mastodon replies were not visible on Lemmy.
Yeah... That's a common federation issue. I haven't properly investigated but a hypothesis might be that the account that commented are on instances not federating with the Lemmy instance.
Here a community for you to do more test : !testfediverse@jlai.lu
Here a community for you to do more test : !testfediverse@jlai.lu
This is a useful too, thank you
It's pretty inconsistent, depends on what the people running the site are doing. Seems like the Palestine comm and other stuff that is really consistently popular on both sides for years is what works reliably. Plus it depends on Mastodon fork. Misskey would have no problem federating with Lemmy if not for one tiny bug, but the forks like Sharkey and Iceshrimp already solved that. It's just that nobody except for me and like 37 other people know they exist.
You mentioned K/Mbin and I honestly find it a bit distasteful, as representing what should really be the same kind of post-reply format (the retweet accounts represent comms or rss feeds etc perfectly, I even use them for scraping imageboards and Telegram, these sites may have different UI but they're almost the same format) in a whole separate thing just feels really clunky and the magazines are weird—sorry if that makes you mad because it really fits your workflow. Wish there was just more basic consistency between the platforms since users could share information regardless of whether they have Twitter or Reddit brain 😁
Mainly I wish stuff like a.gup .pe worked better *lmao this already shut down nevermind RIP it was basically a platform-agnostic way to create groups similar to lemmy's communities, and they appeared on here that way
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