Before we go too hard into the "um, actually" responses, this was pretty obviously a reaction to Hegseth's "prayer for violence."
I'll take any sort of help we can get against that idiot and his gang of idiots' illegal war.
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Religion can be fine. It is and always has been the idiots who ruin shit, just like with everything. I have churches around me that help the community, are open to all sorts of people. So the leader of one of the largest churches finally doing what he can to denounce nonsense is a step in the right direction for sure.
Unfortunately, the idiots will most certainly be heard.
Every US president in the last 35 years has bombed the middle east.
Sad-funny part is that it was in the name of "bringing the armageddon" alongside money.
There was decades of propoganda calling all forms of self-defense "just religious extremism" and we find out it was mostly projection.
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I'll give the orange moron an hour or two to produce an all caps posting on his sewer of a platform, calling Leo a "Fake Pope", claiming the papal election was 'rigged' and threatening to bomb the Vatican unless they offer him the papacy.
I love you Leo but these leaders couldn't care less about god. Perhaps a better twist would "Leaders who wage wars are antichrists on Earth"?
The leaders don't care but a lot of the people who voted for them allegedly do.
allegedly
That word is doing a lot of work.
yea that why I think it is more to the point to equate them with antichrist (or atleast their cult if we wanna give it a lovecraftian twist) rather than just someone whose prayers don't get accepted. Leo is a playa, he should know this.
These guys may not care about God, but they sure do invoke him a lot. Hegseth and other commanders are catching a LOT of complaints from officers and troops about the constant barrage of religious rhetoric coming from the top. And Israel and Iran are doing everything they're doing in the name of the same God as us.
So it's good that Pope Leo is speaking out directly against those hypocrites. I don't believe in any of that hogwash, but Pope Leo has a lot more credibility as a man of God than any of those other psychopaths.
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[] Leo said. "He revealed the gentle face of God, who always rejects violence.
I think my Bible might be faulty
The Israelites were YAHWEH’s special people, so when they are oppressed it’s bad, but they are obligated to genocide anyone that stands in their way. Even babies and animals.
This should sound familiar even you have never read a line of a Bible or Torah.
No no no. That was the Old Testament which doesn't count anymore.
The New Testament is the one that we care about (except we've we don't)
Because God's absolute morality somehow changes over time while still being absolute, because something or other that makes no sense.
I mean, that's not wild on it's face. You can explain shifting morality with respect to changing material conditions and social relationships.
I might argue that the Old Testament God was intended to offer leverage to the intelligencia (priest class) over the military/aristocracy (kings and their courtiers).
Meanwhile, the New Testament was fundamentally describing a God of Slaves, preaching equinimity and grace in the next life for the hardships of the modern day.
And then, when the slave class overthrew and supplanted the Pagan aristocracy, suddenly the Old Testament was back in fashion again.
It makes sense historically
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God also rejects prayers of child molesters, Leo.
Ok based af of him
Also I'm wondering what the bets are like on how long it takes Vance to kill him
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"If I had cherished iniquity in my heart, the Lord would not have listened." -- Psalm 66:18
"Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save, or his ear dull, that it cannot hear; but your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hidden his face from you so that he does not hear." -- Isaiah 59:1-2
"If one turns away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer is an abomination." -- Proverbs 28:9
"When you spread out your hands, I will hide my eyes from you; even though you make many prayers, I will not listen; your hands are full of blood. Wash yourselves; make yourselves clean; remove the evil of your deeds from before my eyes; cease to do evil. -- Isaiah 1:15-16
For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous, and his ears are open to their prayer. But the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.” -- 1 Peter 3:12
Whoever closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself call out and not be answered. -- Proverbs 21:13
"The Lord is far from the wicked, but he hears the prayer of the righteous." -- Proverbs 15:29
He's got a pretty solid basis for that claim.
If those Evangicals could read they'd be very upset.
The Evangelicals Creed
"I believe in God, the Father Almighty maker of heaven and Earth. And in Jesus Christ, his only son, our Lord. Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary, never did or said anything important, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried..."
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Where is he getting that information, exactly? Can this be independently verified?
Big f---ing /s on this one...
He's allegedly omniscient and omnipotent, so he must be okay with the needless death and suffering.
so does that mean Catholic teaching changes over time ? Because to my knowledge, the crusader were motivated by the Pope speeches !
Kind of yeah, one of the reasons for the pope existing. That's why they keep doing the whole voting thing
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It does, and will continue to do so.
The bishops responsible for ejecting the Pope are likely aware of this, and is by in large why Leo was chosen. The church really doesn't get to set the cultural trend as much as nudge it in a particular direction. It's the bumpers in a bowling alley, not the ball.
People are going to find something they don't like,then seek justification for not liking it.
Two dudes fuckin, ew! I would never do that that's so gross. Oh look, here's this passage in this book I like saying that's actually evil! Hell yeah!
When it looks like 'Christians' cherry pick passages to support whatever nonsense they're on about, that's because they are, always have done so and always will. Because the nonsense was always more important to them than the Bible. It just so happens that the Bible says a lot of shit that's very easy to take out of context to support whatever nonsense you want.
The Pope is reading the room, and providing justification. Or rather, the Cardinals elected a Pope that aligns with the current climate and he's just saying whatever ~~God tells him to~~ comes to mind. He might swing a few people but if he pushes too hard what he'll just alienate some Catholics and they might break off and do their own thing, again.
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Yes, it does.
As I recall, only the first Crusade was endorsed by a Pope. And no, the teachings don't change, though the way things are phrased varies based on culture.
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Being an American and a good Christian is contradictory. Look at how it started in America, forced conversions of native American children and that was just of what we know of it, at least here in America.
Being an American and a good person is contradictory, what with the numerous genocides throughout her history and all, that being one of them.
I get what you're saying but it's hard to lay blame on a modern person for some shit a related group of people did 150 years ago. That's like saying it's impossible to be Irish and a good Catholic, what with the child slavery prisons, which are far more recent. Or that is impossible to be a Muslim and a good person, what with the things other Muslims have done in the name of God.
You're responsible for you. Other people are responsible for themselves. Unless you happen to believe that every person is responsible for the sins of his father. Which, weirdly enough the Catholic Church does, but didn't happen to be involved in that particular genocide.
Also, counterpoint, Mr Rogers. American, Christian, good person. Or Jimmy Carter.
It's almost like putting general groups of people into stereotypical categories makes it easy to hate and blame and keep us divided.
I wonder who stands to benefit the most from that.
In a manner of speaking, this is correct. A Christian's home is in Heaven, they simply travel here as immigrants.
That's just original sin talk. Also, Leo is American. For an American to be a good Christian takes extra work, "it's not my fault but it is my responsibility" and whatnot, but I've met Americans who are good Christians, and yeah they're involved in attempting to right the wrongs that can be righted here
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US Christian’s don’t give a fuck about the pope. Probably most aren’t Catholic anyway. And even some of US Catholics (likely in the south and midwest) don’t give a fuck what the pope says either.
I think he knows being from the US himself...
The more entrenched conservative US christians would undoubtedly dismiss the pope's message, but those who are less affiliated might give it some thought.
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I don't think the evidence is clear that god rejects prayers more for sociopaths than everybody else.
But yes they are probably rejected equally.
Or God simply doesn't exist and we as a species need to deal with our own problems
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they are would actually be praying to demonic forces.
The position of Pope has been used to send many people to their death primarily in the middle ages. Julius II was called the Warrior Pope, he was the first and only pontiff to command and lead a papal army into battle. 1503 - 1513 and then there were the Crusades
Lol, who says the leaders who wage wars even pray?
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