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Probably not gonna happen, but I really wish they include a headphone jacket and IR blaster
fr, a headphone jack and they wouldve had me.
i still use xiaomi redmi phones (the ones w/ headphone jack, IR blaster, able to be unlocked, compatible with crDroid) because of this reason. I really do wish these types of companies have more in terms of phone features than simply being sustainable and easy to unlock/customize..
Could I get a fairphone that won't suffer from obsolescence after a few years? I swear I was just looking at the 4 and deciding against it because I heard people were having issues sourcing parts for older fairphones.
Can I get a forever phone where I can upgrade and repair module by module until I've thesiused and frankensteined every piece into a whole new phone?
Could I get a fairphone that wonβt suffer from obsolescence after a few years? I swear I was just looking at the 4 and deciding against it because I heard people were having issues sourcing parts for older fairphones.
Can I get a forever phone where I can upgrade and repair module by module until Iβve thesiused and frankensteined every piece into a whole new phone?
I'm not having trouble sourcing parts for my FP4, maybe that's a regional issue or it's still too new. I intend to keep it for at least 10 years, but the most worrisome thing for me is that there are simply no aftermarket components. Maybe the market just isn't big enough for that, but it means we'll be stuck with whatever number of original parts the manufacturer provides.
Could I get a fairphone that won't suffer from obsolescence after a few years?
You can get a fp 4 which is still getting updates after 10 years. I have no idea where you got the idea that if a phone is not the newest thing, its obsolete. Except maybe if youre one of those iPhone Lobotomites
I swear I was just looking at the 4 and deciding against it
Again. It is 10 year old. You should not be getting a phone at the end of its lifespan.
Can I get a forever phone where I can upgrade and repair module by module
That would be great, but again, a phone is not the same as a Framework laptop. You have way less space in there, and unlike Laptops, the Question of Modularity has not already been solved by a 20 Year old 10 kg Thinkpad.
Also, the things you care about like the Camera and such have not changed for phones in a long time, together with the Power requirement. I can still use my old af S7 just like my 2 year old pixel 7 without problems, and furthermore, the only thing that significantly changes with the models is their approach to the whole chassis to the phone, and aou cant just expect to put the mb of a Framework 13 into a 16 without problems
Fairphone 1: 2013
Fairphone 2: 2015
Fairphone 3: 2019
Fairphone 3+: 2020
Fairphone 4: 2021
Fairphone 5: 2023
Fairphone 6: 2025
The FP4 is 10 years old? How long have I had mine I wonder?
Never had a case on it, dropped it quite a few times, once or twice off a tram onto the pavement.
I started to notice some very thin cracks forming around the edges of the screen, but the frame looks like I took an angle grinder to it.
I don't plan to replace it any time soon.
Sry, 3 year old
Iirc when i was looking the price had dropped due to the 5 coming.
How's the replacement parts infrastructure holding up on the 4? Genuine ask, I mostly shitpost βοΈ
The way I use tech I'm going back to 10 year old thinkpads, mp3 players, dumb phones and polaroid cameras anyway.
The replacement parts are still there. Just like with the 3, just like with the 2, partly
The only bad thing about it is that the support ends in 2 years, but you can just try Calyx Extended support on it, or postmarketOS
I'm actually a bit surprised, the parts for the 2 are what I remember being complained about lol.
Thats what I said, partly. They still have some, but its not reliable anymore
I used to have a fp3 which was nice. But stopped buying the new models because the lack of headphone jack. Would love to see that get a come back in this model
One of Fairphones slogans was "the most sustainable phone is the one you already own". By not adding a headphone jack to their future phones they keep me hooked on my FP3.
That's sooner than I expected, they have historically released later in the year.
Depending on the camera performance, might be interested in switching to this from my pixel
"The most sustainable phone is the one you already have". But if you need a new one anyway, go for it. I'm really happy with my FP4.
Different person, but I have had my Xperia 5ii for 4 years. It hasn't gotten any updates for 2.5, but in Belgium, bank apps and a national identity authentication app HAVE to work because the national ID reading software doesn't work on atomic linux distros so I can't risk putting Lineage on it to extend its lifespan. The fingerprint sensor stops working 4-12 hours after a reboot due to a prolific software bug and the battery life has degraded quite a bit.
Maybe the FP6 would be a good successor. FP5 actually got 3rd for me when I took the MKBHD blind photo test after the pixels, the camera seems quite good now.
The β¬549 model is probably not going to have 256gb space right?
The difference would probably be β¬50 more for higher storage if not higher. Still, I can't see this being a deter for many people.
It will probably have an SD card slot like the FP5.
Came here just to say "headphone jack".
For you, there is Sony.
The design has been greatly modernized, with the screen bezels being significantly narrower than on the Fairphone 5,
no thanks, sometimes it's already too easy to touch the screen when gripping the phone with my palm
I so much hate fashion in tech.
I have a curved smartphone with thin bezels. Unless, you use the phone without any case. Its fine. The touch rejection on my current phone is good so accidental touch has never been a issue. On the other hand the immersive views make the experience good.
Idk, mine are very thin and with a case on it's not a problem. More screen real estate while keeping the same dimensions is a good thing imo.
I so wish we didn't design phones such that we need to then also put extra material friction and padding on them. It's intentionally bad engineering in order to cater to a feeling of luxury in fragility.
You don't need a case, just stop dropping your phones.
This was what I did until it became fashion to also make phones slippery as fish.
Plenty of phones out there with non-glass backs, but you can also just put a skin on it if grip is an issue.
you don't need a seatbelt, just don't crash
The discussion was about accidental presses, that's a problem that is non-existent for 99% of people because they use a case (to protect the phone from drops bc it's glass). Glass screens are afraid of drops, but most people prefer that to plastic that scratches really easily. I'd rather not go back to plastic screens.
If you want, you can buy a drop-resistant phone with thick bezels and extra padding already included. XR21 for example, or whatever unihertz is doing. Plenty of phones have started doing grippy panels too.
You can do it without a case too, these people just don't know how to hold a phone properly.
"properly" wth
sometimes you are not standing when holding the phone.
sometimes you are also at a high place and you (or others at least) grip your phone more to make sure it does not fall
The comment was removed by a moderator, I didn't delete it lol
Learn how to hold a phone. Pinky fingers at the bottom, the rest of your fingers at the back, thumbs free for operating the screen. You shouldn't be gripping it on the sides.
oh you certainly should. like when the bus is in motion. or when you are not standing but you are horizontally. in those situations your smart way of holding the phone does not really work out
Apparently it does, considering I haven't dropped a phone in years while you are so paranoid about it that you equate it to car accidents. I think it's pretty obvious which one of us is doing it wrong.
have you ever rode a bus with the phone in the hand that needed to break suddenly?
have you ever used your phone while in bed?
Yes and yes. No issues.
How easy is installing something like Graphene on a Fairphone compared to a Pixel?
Genuinely saying this in case you don't know already, GrapheneOS can't be installed on devices other than the Pixel series, other OS are available tho
You can install LineageOS, \E\OS.
Also iodΓ©OS.
CalyxOS would be the closest thing to graphene you could install.
The Fairphone 5 is sold optionally with /e/os already preinstalled, I imagine that will be an option for the 6 as well
