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[–] 60 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Thank you EU for making life better for literally everyone

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    they'll still block access to the battery in the US.

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    [–] 50 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    This has been a massive no-brainer for quite a while. I think the only iPhone that was pretty close to having this a reality was the iPhone 4, it was really easy to just slide the back open and swap the battery. Not as easy as it could be, but certainly close.

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  • [–] 27 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Repairability has never been an Apple thing.

    I've replaced the keyboard on a Macbook, I swear there were 40 screw in that thing, and I'm not exaggerating for effect or anything. About every 2 keys it was screwed to the case from the bottom.

    I've also done an iphone battery a couple times for friends, it's a nightmare, but now pretty much all phones are difficult. I have to do the batteries on my Razr soon and I'm not looking forward to it.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago

    FWIW they’re definitely improving in that regard, probably because they know legislation like this is coming.

    The iPhone 16 replaced the frustrating glue strips with a special adhesive that unsticks with an electric current, and the MacBook Neo is apparently really easy to get into for simple repairs.

    Still a long way to go, but it’s encouraging.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    This was a thing with Samsung from the beginning all the way to the S7. The rational after that was the waterproof rating but I have a Zebra TC27 at work that's IP rated WITH ad repalcable battery. So it's easy to do, just cost more than not doing it and for Apple it's a revenue stream replacing batteries.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The s5 was also water resistant, same rating as every other water resistant galaxy since. Used to have 2 batteries and a separate battery charger so I could just hot swap. I don't think I ever actually plugged the phone into a charger.

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    this is a good idea, just like forcing apple to make their phones usbc

    So many fuking cables

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    [–] 20 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The EU again, making strides to improve consumer electronics. Thank you EU

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (18 children)

    I'm very curious how this will be handled by OEM's.

    Water resistance is pretty much universal at this point, and as far as I know that's dependent on an airtight seal being maintained throughout the device.

    The EU rule forbids use of tools, chemicals or heat to remove the battery. So how does Apple, Google etc retain the IP68 rating if the back is removable via screws?

    I obviously think this is a really great step for mobile phones; I miss being able to carry a second battery for long trips back in the day. But I'm concerned that this will also make phones bulkier, heavier and less water resistant.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago

    The Galaxy S5 was water resistant and had a replaceable battery. The main reason they stopped was that Apple was doing glass/metal phones without replaceable anything that still sold like pancakes, so Samsung moved to glass-back phones with the S6 and the rest of the OEMs eventually followed suit.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    That is what gaskets are designed to do. Admittedly I haven't read the regulations, but they could even go as far as making the gasket "single use". Meaning the battery is user replaceable, but not meant to be constantly swapped. Removing the back cover could require replacing the gasket and using a specific torque value and sequence on the screws the same way you would on any other gasket interface meant to keep dust and liquids in or out.

    They could also potentially start waterproofing the circuit boards themselves with conformal coating the way they do with mission critical hardware that needs to still function even if there is some amount of water ingress. I'm not saying I'd be happy with that solution, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago*

    I like the idea, and I suspect gaskets will be the solution they go with, with the back cover applying pressure to the gasket to create a seal. but the EU regulation specifically says that no expertise should be required and you should be able to do it with commercial, standard tools (i.e screwdriver). I don't think they could make single-use gaskets where you have to purchase additional gaskets from the OEM. I suppose they could come with the battery itself, which the EU requires OEMs to sell for 5 years.

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    [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    Sadly, but I am pretty sure that companies will still find some loophole here and abuse it for their profit.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago*

    We will see bug this regilation has already real impact today. The new Neo from Apple is surprisinglx modular and its battery easy to replace with nothing more than s screw driver. Previous laptops were horrendous in this regard. Of course, that is only because Apple found its love for repairability and is not already preparing for the above regulation. Turns out also modern phone batteries can be easily replaceable. You'll see in a year.

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    [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I wonder if this will take the wind out of the sails of fairphone

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