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The DNC, more than any other organization in existence, is responsible for Trump’s presidency

Man...

The craziest part is the ~400 some people that get to vote when a Dem doesn't win agreed with you a year ago when they voted for someone that wasn't a neoliberal.

Like, if it was 15 months ago, you'd be 100% correct.

The main problem, is you think "the DNC" is a monolith, and not just the chair getting a four year term to do anything they want.

Obama ignored the DNC because they worked with Hillary in the primary and went bankrupt.

So neoliberals kept going into 2016, rigged it against Bernie, and when Hillary lost and all the money had been siphoned off to the first Victory Fund, they had no choice to pick a neoliberal in 2017 to have access to the VF or the party would have died. Maybe it should have a decade ago, but it didn't.

That chair rigged it for Biden, and Biden put another neoliberal in charge of the DNC, and in return Kamala got the VF and the nomination with no primary.

Which takes us to 2025, and the ~400 voting members got a chance again.

And they picked the guy who ran Minnesota for a decade and has an incredibly strong track record anyone can easily look up.

We fucking won...

We got the party back.

The literal.only way we can lose it is if people check out of the Dem presidential and a neoliberal like Newsome gets the nomination and wins the general, that hands the keys of the party back and neoliberals will never let them go again.

No matter what happens, in the next Dem presidential primary vote for whoever is furtherest left, if nothing else to spite what you think the DNC still is.

Anything else and you might fuck us all

Edit:

I didn't mention what happened with the Victory Fund, after Kamala the DNC got the keys to it.

For the last year we've had the largest reinvesture of funds from the DNC to state parties...

All that money back to states that need it to win these races, instead of sitting in a bank account until it's time to throw another meaningless dinner with George Clooney.

We don't want a large powerful national organization... Like, we want bottom-up power structure and that's what we're going back to...

The stuff people want to happen is happening, it's been happening.

They just still suck at messaging, partly because they don't think the party should be driving the bus.

The DNC, more than any other organization in existence, is responsible for Trump’s presidency.

Yeah, I'm gonna hard NOPE right out of that assertion. The republicans are not virgins at a debutante's ball, they've been working directly toward this goal for at least forty years, and the ones that are up there now, including the house speaker and corrupt SCOTUS, are doing everything in their power to keep him there, marching in lockstep as they go.

Where is your broad censure for them, the ones actively planning and carrying out Project 2025, the ones robbing the country blind, the ones doing everything they can right now to ensure we lose our democracy? Because it's sure as fuck nowhere in your comment.

The DNC is an open enemy of the left. They’re explicitly paid by the oligarchy to oppose leftist candidates.

This is true, and by far not the DNC's only crime.

But when you give the actual perps a complete, total, 100% pass in favor of attacking the only people still trying to stop them (even though some of them are only vaguely gesturing in that direction, to be sure) you're batting for the wrong team.

That said, I'll never vote for a non-progressive over a progressive again as long as I live. If by that time I still have a vote that matters, of course.

Thank you. I'm tired of people thinking the neo-liberals of the Democrats are their friends. They point toward the few pieces of legislation they pass that's positive when they ignore all the needed legislation they never even give lip service to. In all the time since its inception payments for disabilities and similar have not risen to meet inflation, the amount they can keep in a bank account hasn't changed since like the 1970s. There's SO much wrong that the Dems could platform on and spend so much time doing if they win but they don't want to.

I think you're wrong. Or rather, I think you're mostly wrong.

Like, in no way do I think they are extremely good at what they do, unless your argument is that they don't give a shit, which I also think is wrong. They definitely want to win. They definitely want to control things. They literally make more money (not the organization, mind you, the people who run the organization) when they are in control. It is silly to think otherwise. Heck, it is safer, too!

But, I think they are quite dumb, or maybe it's better to think of them as out of touch. They rely on political calculus, but they're using some pretty bad variables. Because otherwise, there wouldn't be any progressive Democrats at all. Like, that is inherently detrimental to their centrism. Giving crumbs isn't as useful to them as people say because it let's others know how hungry they are for more of that. Hope is contagious.

I think they work with what they got, and what they got is so rapidly changing that they freak out and pick what they think is the safest option over and over again. And their base hates it, but they'll deal with that part later, there's just too many fires for them!

Like, sure, there's a little bit of trying to control how progressive they can be, but they just... Suck at that, too. I dunno, man. A lot of people can skate by on incompetency, and that just feels more likely.

Sometimes I wonder if they don't have a monthly secret meeting where they look at which issues appear to be up and coming and then flip a coin for which party takes which side of it. Kinda like debate club.

It often looks more like performance art. The dems pretend to take one side of an issue, and then rally their base about how the GOP want to stop the solution or tear down current protections. And of course the GOP takes the other side and rallys their base against what the "lunatic" dems want to do (which of course the dems would never do because then the issue would be gone), and they start proposing ways to tear down whatever law already favor the democrats side.

When the dems get in power, somehow very few of the things they proposed before actually happen. And the ones that do are so soft an executive order can undo them.

It's just a shell game. Perception manipulation.

This guy is from Maine, and they do have ranked choice voting for federal elections, one of the steps on the way to breaking the two-party stranglehold.

Of course the Republicans fought it tooth and nail, because they will never win another race with a system like this, and exploited a loophole in the state constitution to keep ranked choice out of state races.

Back that up with a proportional representation system.

Any party with full control will become a tyrant.

If we organize we could seize control of the democratic party, and the Democratic establishment has been scared shitless of that since 2016, but they managed to play us off each other like chumps. And they still are. Because we have no organization. Turning us against each other.

America is a one-party state, of course. But in typical American extravagance they have two of them.

There was a lot of money behind the tea party and then maga takeover. Its just not there the same way for the progressive since the billionaires are all on the other side or not getting heavily involved.

MAGA did it from the top down. Trump became president and was able to strong arm people below him. He was even able to switch the RNC chair to a family member.

The current DNC won't say shit about any candidate till after they win a primary.

Just to be clear, that's not true.

Maine’s primary is the most unusual of the three — and may be causing the most intraparty heartburn — because it is the only one where Democratic leadership has itself picked a candidate. Schumer and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, the party’s official arm for Senate races, are backing Mills.

Per the Boston Globe on January 17th 2026.

And of course after this interview Mills dropped out and,

Meanwhile, Schumer and Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee Chair Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, both of New York, said they would work with Platner to defeat Collins.

Per WBUR

So the DNC and DSCC endorsed Mills before the primary. After Mills dropped out, they endorsed Platner. And while I'm glad they did, technically there is still another candidate and a write in candidate also running in the upcoming primary. It is not likely they'll win, but they absolutely are endorsing before the primary.