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[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Guess it's time to strike harder. These rights were not gained by listening nicely to government.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

Yeah, very true. If we don't strike first. We'll never get to.

But we don't strike when Marlaina Smith's people gut healthcare and workers' rights, so what makes you think our unions will strike for this? Sometimes I feel they're impotent now.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

This is super depressing. I did not expect a lot from Carney but I hoped he won't be as bad on labour since that contradicts his growth plans. Without strong labour the benefits won't trickle down and we'd find ourselves in another confidence crisis as prices won't stop rising. PP will appear vindicated and he'll campaign on "I told you the banker is a fake"

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago

Crushing labour is a key part of any growth plan. When they say "growth", they mean short term profits (line go up), not improvements in quality of life.

[–] EatYourOrach@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Skippy pretending to care about worker's rights. That'll be... fun. I imagine the Manning Centre's PR machine working overtime on another makeover right now. Brainstorming, "what do workers look like" and next time he steps out it'll be in overalls and a big straw hat, or an old school rail porter's uniform. It'll be up there with Harper's weird cowboy leather daddy moment.

It is depressing. Thinking about Carney's Davos speech where he referenced Havel's Power of the Powerless, taking the "workers of the world unite" sign out of the window. I didn't think he meant it literally.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

This is a 22 Minutes episode right there.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 week ago

PP will appear vindicated and he’ll campaign on “I told you the banker is a fake”

Which will get PP elected.

[–] Coriba@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 week ago (6 children)

How the fuck is he a liberal? Who nominated him? How have dozens of former liberals not crossed the floor to the NDP? He is worse than Harper. Beyond PP’s dreams! Fucking alarming.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago

Liberals have rarely been pro-labour. While the Trudeau gov't did some positive welfare changes, it tipped the scales on many strikes for corpos. Chretien did austerity and bargaining freezes, etc. Pierre Trudeau also harmed labour in various ways.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The rampant use of Section 107 as a strike-breaking tool started under Trudeau's Liberal government.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

If you look further back, you won't find labour-friendly LPC gov't since the 70s.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Capital~~Mulroney~~ in a red tie.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

The Cons are the old Reform and the Libs are the old Cons.

We knew that going into the election. I don’t know why Lib MPs aren’t crossing to the NDP but if any of their constituents voted for them thinking they weren’t the Cons then they should be contacting them to floor cross.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Never underestimate polyestre's dreams.

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Fucking working class traitor.

We elected him to fight against the U.S. economic attacks and because he promised to help the struggling middle class, make Canada build social housing again, etc.

Now he's essentially eroding our rights to have any dignity. Healthcare, education, infrastructure, access to affordable housing, access to afordable food, working conditions, all are threatened under Carney, to favor the rich elites who are running the fucking show in this country.

Not to mention how he's essentially enabling the U.S. and their economic attacks on our economy, their phony trade deals, and their involvement in genocide with Israel.

Fucking shameful.

I can't believe we have to wait 4 years before getting rid of this asshole. There should be a vote of confidence every year to trigger new elections if the people are unhappy. Along with proportional voting.

I'm so sick of this shit.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We didn't choose him because he was good for us.

We chose him because he was the least worse. It was a choice between the second-worst candidate and the worst.

Always remember that. And let's get a better candidate for next time, so we have someone we want to vote for.

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I reject that excuse. We could all still have voted NDP which was the best option.

A conservative minority government with a strong NDP would still have been a better outcome than this.

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Some of us could have, yes, and I would say should have. However those in deeply conservative areas could not. I voted Liberal in a vague hope of dethroning the cons in my area (along with others according to election results) and it still wasn't enough. The alternative was vote for a candidate I knew would never have a chance.

We need ranked voting.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And let’s get a better candidate for next time

Except we don't get to pick candidates, we only get to pick Red or Blue.

You totally can pick the candidate. Just join the party.

That's what I did with the NDP and voted for Avi Lewis.

[–] group_hug@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

People love him and he is super popular I imagine/hope because they'd rather scroll influencer infomercials and AI slop than inform themselves.

I agree with PP on one thing though. Crossing the floor should absolutely trigger a by-election. Who's to stop leaders from running candidates in every party. In fact I'm not so sure the NDP floor crosser wasn't a plant. NDP and Carney liberals are very far apart ideologicaly

When I think of Carney liberals I think of the harder government.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People aren't paying as much attention at what's going on. The shit's gonna start hitting them eventually though. Mostly through stagnant wages during continuing price hikes. Not to mention the NDP vote that lent itself to him to keep PP out. We are unlikely to repeat that the way things are going. It's why it's important to build up the NDP in some populist shape so the incoming disgruntled vote doesn't all go to PP. We need working class reps in parliament‚ not whatever the neoliberal fuck the NDP was over the last couple of decades.

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Avi Lewis is a great leader for the NDP and I'm confident he's thing to turn things around.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Agreed. I can't volunteer but I'm giving him money.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 5 points 1 week ago

I agree with PP on one thing though. Crossing the floor should absolutely trigger a by-election.

Then maybe he should have voted for a bill to do just that when he had the opportunity. That bill didn't pass in part because of Pierre's principled stance.

I'm not saying you're wrong to feel that way, but you are certainly wrong to believe that Pierre actually agrees with that when it doesn't help his position.

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The NDP floor crosser did so at the request of their constituents. They wanted their MP to be in the leading party to have more influence for their small region.

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[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Hey at least we can still kill ourselves

That's a homegrown solution, MAID in Canada

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[–] GodofLies@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Did everyone forget that the Bank of Canada announced 'Canadians must accept a lower standard of living'? or the fact their 'sovereign wealth fund' idea is literally tax payer funded via debt? or their plan to 'attract' 1 trillion in investment (read as 'private equity coming in and reaping Canadian resources while we give them very favourable terms'). Gee, I wonder why they want to union bust.

This government has forgotten what a general strike is. On the other hand, unions today are so pathetically weak that they can't even stand up for each other.

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[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 21 points 1 week ago

Banker going to be a fucking banker.

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

What a fucking chode.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If we can't strike then we start lynching.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wouldn't that be the day? S'pretty tough to find people that dedicated to a union, and we got people in or out of the strike who think blocking roads makes you "look bad."

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

someones paying to strike-break. this will ensure people like PP wins next election.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's worse is this is exactly what PP would do anyways 🤣

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (11 children)

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/news/2026/04/government-of-canada-launches-consultations-to-strengthen-labour-relations-and-better-support-workers.html

This is the article it talks about.

adjusted timelines for collective bargaining;

strengthening training supports for workers impacted by artificial intelligence and automation;

updating workplace health and safety protections; and

strengthening protections against misclassification and wage theft, and exploring options to ensure union rights carry over when contracts are retendered.

If that all sounds good, ask why would they ever be consulting with employers on this?

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Rail assoc suit was quoted explaining how things need to change because Canada appears unreliable for investment due to the strikes (on rail). Can't make it more obvious what the employer consultation is about.

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[–] GCanuck@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The only question for classifying a job as "essential" is if someone will/might die if it's not performed.

If it only concerns profit... It's not essential.

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And there better be a way to settle greivances for essential jobs or they quickly hollow out. If you don't, people don't train for them or pursue them, and we damn well know they aren't going to up the pay to make them more attractive.

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