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[–] 47 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Lets be real, NordVPN has done so many shady things themselve (fake limited time discount on their website which is illegal in many regions of the world), no one who knows about these and cares about data protection and privacy would use it anyway.

But nice that they add some pressure ig.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Place your bets everyone, which way do you think this will go?

    1. Canada doesn't pass the surveillance law

    2. The law passes and some/all of Signal/DDG/NordVPN remain anyway

    3. The law passes and they exit Canada

    4. (something else)

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    #2 DDG might not leave, Signal might do something maliciously compliant, and NordVPN will just leave.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Why does humanity have to keep fighting the same fights against different governments over and over again?

    Cannot governments, for once, be even slightly on the side of a free society?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    States are built on control. They literally only exist because they are the dominant power structure in a specific area.

    States pushing for more freedom is antithetical.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I agree with that (unlike the other answer I got to this; yeah, Soviet-aligned states were definitely very free societies amirite /s), but then again, sometimes there are more or less successful movements toward more freedom. The history of the 20th century alone is that of the century ending with much more freedom in the world than there was during most of it. How have we completely forgotten those values?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yes. Just to be clear I’m not a pessimist, I don’t believe we can’t achieve more freedom. I’m just an anarchist. I believe to truly end domination and have self-determination, the move towards freedom must ultimately aim to end the state.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    XMPP, TOR, and a few 20 4get instances will still be there. All good.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    What do they have over Canada? why should they care?

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