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    [–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 95 points 1 week ago (13 children)

    I'd like to use a Linux phone, but it has to run Android apps though. They Gotta find a way, else it's never gonna happen.

    [–] tal@lemmy.today 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

    It'd theoretically be possible to run a straight GNU/Linux tablet or laptop with a 5G cell modem for data, use SIP service and a GNU/Linux dialer, and then run Waydroid for any specific Android apps that one has to run.

    Idle power usage is gonna be a lot higher than on a phone, though.

    And a lot of Android apps are made with a touch interface and small screen in mind and are aware of things in a cell environment, like "only update X when on WiFi". Not really common for GNU/Linux software to do that.

    [–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    like “only update X when on WiFi”.

    Most Linux software only updates when the user tells the package manager to update it.>

    [–] Colloidal@programming.dev 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I think you're misunderstanding it. Most mobile apps have sensible defaults regarding data and battery usage, for instance, not updating (their feeds/server status/whatever networked service the app uses) if not in WiFi.

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    [–] tal@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    I'm talking about stuff like pulling down new podcast episodes and such.

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    [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago
    [–] potatoguy@potato-guy.space 12 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    Waydroid with a ROM with GAPPS? I use lineageos on my linux tablet, a lot of android games run just fine.

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    [–] MrMobius@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    A program like Wine, but to run Android apps on a Linux machine would be great. It would use a lot less battery power than a virtual machine.

    [–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    You mean...waydroid? It's literally a translation layer running on a container, AFAIK. Then you can add an additional ARM emulation plugin for specific apps that don't have x86 versions.

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    [–] cm0002@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    It's never going to be the year of the Linux phone until there's one that actually has specs to do the things the majority of people want

    Thus far, all the Linux phones I've seen had laughable specs. There's the Liberux NEXX, but it's still at the concept stage

    [–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] otacon239@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    Step one is making it exist, step 2 is making it marketable and scalable. Expecting this for competitive pricing in the early stages is unrealistic. Until there’s a real market for truly open phones pushed with millions in marketing to go along with competitive hardware that takes ages to develop, the well-priced phone will remain laden with unauthorized changes, tracking and advertising. This is all before you get software developers on board before it actually sells to people.

    Unless all you need are phone calls or text messaging. That could probably be done at a reasonable price. There’s probably already several decent projects out there to homebrew that.

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    [–] AspieEgg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Way back when, I had a Palm Pixie, which ran WebOS. While it wasn’t FOSS, if you turned on developer mode, you would have full terminal access to the Linux system it was running.

    I think HP eventually made it open source and now LG uses it for their TVs. But that phone’s OS was one of the best ones I had seen at the time.

    [–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

    WebOS, PalmOS, and Sailfish OS are the only mobile OSes I've ever not disliked. I wish Jolla seemed a little more trustworthy so I could switch to Sailfish as my main phone os

    [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    The Palm Pre 2 was, by far, the best phone I have ever used in my life. Then HP abandoned it, like they did everything else worthwhile.

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    [–] olafurp@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    I'm very open to being an early adopter of mobile Linux phones. I've been unable to because of a couple of factors. I last seriously checked about half a year ago so take this with a pinch of salt.

    • Limited support for specific models. This means that the phone will work as a computer but won't have the correct drivers for gyro, sim and whatnot.
    • Lack of extensive driver support. Phones turn off components to save power, this was not supported the last time I checked and halves the battery life compared to stock android.
    • Waydroid support incomplete. Many apps will work but some apps will bug out. Waydroid also has performance issues so it's not as good as WINE for example.
    • Not big enough community. A lot of models are maintained by a single dev that checks in every blue moon.

    To get a Linux phone to be competitive on performance we'll need to get driver APIs and component lists open sourced so it'll be easier to gather the appropriate info and make drivers.

    There has been tons of progress though, Gnome and KDE have really strong touch support now and the apps scale decently.

    It's coming but now fairphone is the only phone that openly supports Linux mobile distros and is open sourced.

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    [–] kokesh@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    When I first saw this... This is like a very very bad free Android icon pack. Makes the phone straight unusable. Can you actually switch to the normal "theme"? My wife unfortunately has an iPhone and I, as an IT guy in the family, usually get blamed for OS updates on her phone, whenever something becomes different. This won't go down easily :)

    [–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 6 days ago

    I sure hope so. Additionally I hope apple will start paywalling core functions.

    What I mean to say: lineageOS works well, the phones are cheap and very usable. The OS is free and the more people use it the better it will become.

    [–] Kronusdark@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

    iOS developer here and I would switch in a heartbeat but unfortunately it’s not about the OS, it’s about the software that runs on the OS.

    Most devs wont build for an OS that doesn’t have an audience. And users will put up with a lot of OS junk for their apps.

    So it’s gonna be up to someone to make a linux phone and use their wallet to kickstart a software ecosystem. One won’t happen without the other, at least not at the scale of Google or Apple.

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    [–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I am writing this comment on an ubuntu touch phone, it is very usable surprisingly, been on it for months now

    [–] ludicolo@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Are you just using web login for everything then? Like for banking and such?

    How do you navigate Incompatibilities?

    [–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    My banking app works just fine but probs specific to mine. android apps run just well. I don't have much problems to navigate

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    [–] lefixxx@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    I am so considering starting to experiment with an Linux phone. But it will be a long time until it can do contactless payments, bank apps, safe biometrics and heavy apps. Now that I think about it,it shouldn't be impossible.

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    [–] Rin@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Holy fuck that looks like ass

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    [–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Unfortunately American, meaning Linux phones need to have VOLTE for them to you know, be phones. Until then I'm stuck on grapheneOS

    [–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    My OnePlus 6 in mobian supports VoLTE calls.

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    [–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 8 points 1 week ago

    I don't use voice anyway - everything I do is through an app.

    Check out jmp.chat - they route everything, your voice calls and SMS, through XMPP. So voice calls are VOIP. I don't even have conventional voice service with them.

    [–] can@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    Is that actually what it looks like?

    [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    i think that's the new apple os

    [–] can@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Yeah, but are they serious with this shit? This is the liquid glass?

    [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    *liquid▶️ass

    [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Yeah, I don't care to dunk on them, but you don't exactly need a UI design degree to see that the contrast between background and foreground is far too low...

    [–] accideath@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

    It’s also the very first developer beta. There’s about 3 months left until release and Apple does occasionally listen to feedback. iOS has noticeably changed from dev beta to release on occasion in the past as well. I hope it does this time as well. I really like the principle of the liquid glass design but yea… this isn’t great…

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    [–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

    Fucking awful if it is.

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    [–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Apple’s godawful new OS style. They call it “Liquid Glass” and it makes no UX sense.

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    [–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Wasn't it always the year of Linux phones like Android has huge share of market and it is running Linux kernel but with Google spyware. Now it's just Apple Spyware.

    [–] oplkill@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Lineage OS is android without google spy

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    [–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    I don't know why they made the background blur so subtle. Even I, as a non-UI/UX designer understand that readability is important. Apart from the slightly harsh edges, I think Liquid Glass looks solid. Way better than hideous flat design.

    EDIT: To clarify, "Liquid Glass" looking solid does not mean the appearance seeming to not be liquid. It is, in fact, liquid.

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