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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 107 points 3 days ago (6 children)

That almost certainly has nothing to do with storage and instead is about frequency of shooting.

People that have one gun locked in safe that never gets open, aren't shooting it.

Someone doing a weekly range trip is going to bring home a bunch of lead dust regardless of how they store the gun.

We really need to get away from lead in firearms

[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

We also really need to normalize lead management. When I went shooting in scouts as a kid I learned all the responsible gun operation saftey stuff, but never even thought about the lead exposure till I was an adult

I'd never even heard of de-leading products for getting yourself cleaned up after shooting until deviant ollam on YouTube talked about them in passing in a video

(great channel by the way, it's hard to find any folks who talk about guns online that a turbo chud)

Edit: misspelled "deviant" lol

[–] sharkweek@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 days ago

JaredAF has really good videos on this, and he measured his lead exposure - it was scary!

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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Copper for slugs, while more expensive has a risk level close to 0 in comparison to lead. It also has excellent ballistic properties and will expand properly with designs like hollow points

[–] punkfungus@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago

It's actually not the projectile that causes most of the lead exposure for shooters. It's the cartridge primers, they use lead styphnate for their explosive. Copper bullets are mainly to not spread lead through the environment where it can harm wildlife, and to avoid the risk of consuming lead in shot animals.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Tungsten, too.

The problem is really the cost. To go to the range and spend $30 would instead cost $150. I think the average person would buy the lead.

I'll ask a friend of mine who worked at a range recently to see what people are spending.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Per friend: -$35 a person $12 for the second and ammo varies wildly. They start about $20/$30 a box for 9mm 50 rounds, but most people use 1/2 boxes ler trip"

Also, per them, tungsten is a no-no due to its armor-piercing abilities.

[–] rljkeimig@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

$20 for 50 rounds of 9mm is exceptionally high. 20-25 cents per round for target ammo is closer to reality. https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's probably the cost buying from the range. Might also be regional. I'm going to keep replying to myself.

[–] mote@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

It is, the ranges mark up the ammo (what business doesn't) as they sell small quantities to a captive audience who will pay. Ammoseek represents the other end of the spectrum, ppl buying wholesale in larger quantities. Not represented are the hand loaders, typically sports-oriented going through a thousand a week in practice buying components at cost.

[–] rljkeimig@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That is fair, you can expect to pay double for the convenience of buying on site at a staffed range.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 3 points 3 days ago

As a company man, he says it "might be a little cheaper elsewhere," but they are the lowest price around for admission.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Is tungsten a no-no to carry around loaded, or is it simply unavailable?

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[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago

Sounds expensive

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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why not just get rid of firearms completely?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Yeah, this is America (Woo, ayy)

Guns in my area (Word, my area)

I got the strap (Ayy, ayy)

I gotta carry 'em

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOjWnS4cMY

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[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

I really thought this was an onion headline or something. Safe gun storage leads to less lead in children... haha... but no, for real for real.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

Proper gun regulations will reduce lead in children, as well.

[–] DougPiranha42@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (13 children)

Or, cognitive impairment from lead poisoning leads to unsafe gun storage.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (5 children)

They were measuring lead in infants under 36 months old.

Are you suggesting toddlers are losing their ability to safely store firearms or did you just not read the article?

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, have you ever seen a baby properly store a firearm? Exactly.

E: ban all babies! Ban all babies!

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

TBF I've never seen a baby improperly store a firearm either.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

The last guy didn't live to tell the tale.

Are babies blood-thirsty murders? More at 10.

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think he is saying the parents have lead impaired thinking and thus are not good at storing the weapons?

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[–] DougPiranha42@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

It was a joke. But lead is in the environment. If toddlers are exposed to it, chances are the parents are too.

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 1 points 2 days ago

Hes suggesting infants with elevated blood lead levels probably have parents with elevated levels.

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[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Americans having lead poisoning from too many guns checks right the fuck out

edit: People upvoting comments that clearly didn't read the article also checks the fuck out

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But what if the government wants stupid children? I mean, the current government would not stand a chance if the population was not that stupid on average.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

But what? Omit the first 4 words of that comment and it's essentially gospel.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 3 points 3 days ago

The bulk of the current crop of voters (approaching or in retirement) grew up in peak-lead in the air from gasoline... they've got a few years before they age out.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

lead poisonining is the least of your worries when it can just kill you right away from a high velocity.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Hoover’s research has focused on how firearm-related lead can contribute to increased blood lead levels in children in the United States. Firearms use lead-based ammunition and primers, he explained, so discharging a firearm releases lead particles that can be inhaled or inadvertently transported into the home on contaminated clothing or gear.

If this also.works for adults,not would explain a lot of the insanely behaviors of gun nut magas

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