Deleting a post because it got downvotes? Who are these babies who can’t take people not liking them?
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I get that but there's also a certain "ugh" when a bunch of .ml folks find a post and want to yell at you about it.
We all gotta find out about the .ml someday.
For sure. But it's just tiring to get notifications for hours of someone yelling about shit libs or something.
That's a different situation though. Getting dogpiled isn't fun. Op is talking about regular normal posts and comments.
That's totally fair. I guess I have a hard time imaging anyone caring about downvotes so I assumed it had to be something like what I described.
You can block them once and for all. It's like they don't exist.
Yeah but the fediverse is still so small that I would miss a lot of content.
My current set up is to watch for .ml posters/comms and avoid commenting. For other, less immediately obvious folks, I'll tag them with a pukey emoji after an unpleasant interaction and generally avoid engaging.
The thing that set up has really brought home is that while there are many folks I find aggressively ignorant, they may still post fun stuff in more neutral, non politics subs. Really eye opening how much I can vehemently disagree with someone in one context and have them be perfectly fine and even funny in another.
I don't miss it one bit, personally. The positives to blocking the whole instance far outweighs the negatives, imho. There are tons of other communities, and it helps make room for such things as poetry (with barely any subscribers and almost no commenters) to show up.
Ofc you do you - there may be a specific community that you feel that you cannot do without. Perhaps you can help by reposting stuff from it elsewhere.
That's one of fediverse's most underused selling points. Karma farming is impossible here.
I was on reddit for 10 years and have been on lemmy for 3. I'm still not sure what this is really supposed to mean.
There is absolutely a "lifetime" karma score available for users, its just not centered in peoples bios like it is on lemmy. But it absolutely exists..
And if people want to go for high scores more power to them. Get that dopamine where you can queen.
I think their point is that on reddit, life time karma impacts the comment placement order; showing more comments from higher karma accounts. So I guess weirdos would delete comments that started to get negative votes on reddit so they weren't seen as undesirable by the algorithm.
Elaborate pls. I know Piefed tracks the user's votes under Attitude, but I'm not aware of tracking of other people's votes on users posts and comments. Am I missing something?
Total per-account upvotes minus downvotes value is tracked for everyone, it is just hidden by choice in Lemmy. Other softwares have other approaches, Piefed has the "attitude" you mentioned. Kbin used to just show the full "karma" value, I'm not sure if Mbin still does. It doesn't appeal to me so I don't keep up with development.
Oh yeah, good point. It's what lemvotes.org depends on.
What if we aren't coming from Reddit? I had good karma way before the internet ever existed because I tried my best to treat the world around me with love and respect. Now that I'm older and knee-deep in the world's tech I find I've become a bit irascible. Maybe that's more a product of age than social engineering. I hope so.
I don't think it's just downvotes that are the reason posts are deleted. What's being ignored, is what follows after downvotes. And that is, users being antagonistic over nuanced posts because the posts don't contain the kind of brainrot-meme-lamejoke kind of content that is the norm.
And it is never a good feeling getting dogpiled on for absolutely no reason other than just not appeasing to whatever expectancy that is there. Additionally, when there isn't enough activity aside from that, people can feel like 'what's the point?' because they simply don't have enough numbers of people engaging.
So this creates this discouragement within them to keep bothering.
Is that why??? Oh man I was wondering why some people did that. Deleting their posts before I even have time to reply
karma is heavily abused by botters, spammers, and used as an excuse by reddit/mods to filter out people they dont like.
Devastating? Jeez.
If you want to make a code change proposal, go ahead and make one. Otherwise, deletion is a feature offered to Lemmy users to use as they see fit. In fact some earlier (unrelated) proposals to speed up the software were rejected on the grounds that deletion is required to actually scrub the entry from the database, rather than simply making it inaccessible through the web. The scrubbing requirement may have been abandoned by now though.
I half remember a Lemmy client (Voyager Jerboa?) with a user setting to automatically delete any post or comment that the user makes after 7 days or something. It had nothing to do with karma. I didn't use that setting but it seemed reasonable to me. Lemmy is a discussion forum not a long term archive.
I do like the idea of adding a wiki feature to Lemmy, to hold info of long term value to a community. Reddit already has something like that.**
The comments under the post is content that other users contribute to. It's very frustrating to be having what amounts to a conversation in the comments just for OP to thrash the whole thing. There's also the problem that a lot of deleted posts are bots probably building a "unique" dataset to sell after (just a hypothesis).
No reason why we can't just have the body and the username removed from the post while keeping the comment section imo.
I like the suggestion in your last sentence. Some deletions might be humans knowing their posts are being used to build unique data sets to do whatever the miner wants to do with them.
Deleting a post doesn't delete the comments, it just makes then undiscoverable/inaccessible. See https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5525
Not that I care about it, but mBin definitely does have a lifetime reputation score you can find on someone's profile if you really care to see it
Internet points aren't the only reason people delete their posts/comments, though?
I think people should think seriously about deleting posts, but comments that don't contribute to the discussion for whatever reason definitely have a shelf life.
And that's aside from the old "a comment you made 10 years ago in another life gets you fired/cancelled" issues due to times changing, some shitlord quoting you out of context, etc, etc.
I figured it was just instances culling old posts without a lot of engagement. I’ve had posts or comments that I’ve made get deleted and I didn’t request them
People actually cared about Reddit karma?
Just don't post any real shit post in the sublemmy shitpost. That will get you a ban. Only picture of fairies and unicorns are allowed for these poor sensitive souls. I though lemmy would be more educated than reddit but unfortunately there are a small group of loud little bitches everywhere ruining the world for everyone else.
On one hand, yes I find it irritating the way people treat their profile like some kind of extension of their personality and only post comments that will be well received.
One the other hand, I don't really see much "knowledge" being removed from the fediverse. I don't really understand how this behavior is devastating to communities.
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