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[–] hark@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Post-covid inflation proved to companies that customers will pay up regardless because they want it and they want it now, no matter the price. Hell, we laughed at horse armor but microtransactions caught on anyway. Voting with your wallet doesn't work because there are an endless swarm of consoomers itching to blow their money on product.

Consent is actually way cheaper to make than a product that's good for people.

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[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Do not preorder anything ever

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 3 days ago

Especially digital stuff. What are they going to do, run out of bytes?

[–] iconic_admin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Cyberpunk 2077 was the last game I’ll ever pre-order. I’m more of a wait for the complete edition to go on sale kind of guy now.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Kind of random but I hope they do the game comparisons not just with GTA 4 & 5 but also GTA clones like Watchdogs or even Cyberpunk 2077.

For all the graphical "upgrades" we've gotten, the physics and dynamic open world has fallen far behind.

What's the point of all that graphic fidelity if NPCs still act like scripted bots from Skyrim?

[–] angband@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I was an adventurer too, until I took an arrow to the knee.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 103 points 3 days ago (17 children)

It does feel like the average person has the self control of a toddler.

[–] dudeface@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I don’t think they care as much as you think they do, it is how the average person would have purchased the game regardless

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[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Most people just accept anything as "the way it is". They can't reason why things are the way they are beyond a certain point, and that's well before they reach the point where they realize they are being taken advantage of.

It has to be a thing that has a very direct cause and effect for them to not accept it. Like COVID lockdowns for example.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's more about personal principles and values, not self control. I make impulsive purchases all the time, but exactly 0% of them goes to scummy piece of shit corporations whose board of directors should be put on death row.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 6 points 2 days ago

There's an element of self control to sticking to values. I've seen people proclaim like they're going to boycott EA because of various reasons, but then some shiny new game comes out and those values fall.

Maybe they never really had he values in the first place.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The 'everyone is 12' joke-theory is actually just essentially true.

In the US, the average adult person in fact is no more literate or 'numerate' than a 12 year old, a 5th grader.

The average person literally is a tween, in terms of higher thought capacity.

Again... this is not a joke, it is just actually true.

Apply George Carlin logic to this.

50% of American adults are less mentally capable than 12 year olds.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (23 children)

So I was watching JoeFromSeattle and he basically has an observation/theory from repeatedly interacting with these people on Twitter.

... They literally do not count themselves as 'gamers', they use the word to identify others.

These are the people who buy Madden/FIFA every year, every COD, every Battlefield, and assume everyone does that, to the point of projecting it without realizing it and then not believing you if you say you didn't do that as well.

... they are very often illiterate, cannot understand sentences above roughly Grade 5 complexity, always assume they are correct and work backwards to attempt to form a justification for whatever they've decided is corrrect.

... they're morons.

Like just... complete fucking morons.

And that's not an insult, its simply accurate.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 3 days ago

It's always fun going through Facebook marketplace and seeing consoles for sale with their "game collection" which is just 10 boxes with the yearly iterations of FIFA and CoD.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think you've hit the nail on the head there and I'll extend as someone who used to love sports games, I haven't physically bought one since like Xbox 360 when I think my system was bundled with it. All sports games are digital now because it's the same goddamn game at this point with roster updates what is the bloody point? Lol

So even then I agree but I don't think it's just that they're morons they are either disingenuous morons or truly stupid because I sense a lot of them are not buying physical media of their FIFA or NBA games anymore.

Used game stores back this up. What you see at used game stores now are the ever popular mainstream shit that has no replay value, where are all the FIFA copies? Oh right everyone downloads now.

You know what you don't see at gamestop? Elden ring. It's good. Replay value high.

You know what else you don't see at gamestop? Clair obscura. It's new. Physical media is dead.

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[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I'm out. I know that it wont amount to much in the grand scheme of things. I switched from a pure Playstation background (owned 1 through 5 on release day and had hundreds of games for each generation) over to PC. I wont partake in this, and I have spent thousands of hours with GTA.

Between Playatation being shitty and now Rockstar being extra shitty, I'm out.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 61 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (13 children)

GTA5 was out for like three years on PC before I bothered with it. I found it to be... fairly mediocre. There's nothing in GTA6 that would make me feel otherwise. I'll eventually play it... at great discount, or not at all.

[–] BewareOfIdiot@nord.pub 30 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Yeah I genuinely don't understand the hype. Maybe I'm just old and fully saturated with GTA already.

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[–] Switorik@sh.itjust.works 47 points 3 days ago (12 children)

People have the power to shut down bad practices if they had even a modicum of restraint. They don't, so here we are.

[–] gndagreborn@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (6 children)

It's kind of disheartening not having solidarity as consumers. It also feeds this kinda FOMO because you showed restraint and are missing out on something.

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[–] Infinitesimal@feddit.org 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

GTA 6 won't come out for Linux. So not buying it is easy

[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

AFAIK, Rockstar usually releases for PC a year or more after consoles. I believe GTA 5 will run on Linux with story mode, but not online mode due to the anti-cheat rootkit . Is there an indication that 6 will be different?

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[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

Is rockstar owned by Sony?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I still haven't played GTA 4 or 5. I own them (got 'em cheap long after release) but I haven't gotten around to playing them yet. Maybe by the time I have GTA 6 will be a reasonable price.

Remember the words of Guybrush Threepwood:

Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago

They're fine.

The hype is inordinate

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'll be honest, I haven't touched a GTA since Vice City on the PC.

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[–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

GTA is the exact same formula since GTA3.

Sure you get a different story, visual upgrades, and some newer cars. But you're not paying for a new gaming experience, it's essentially become what people made fun of CoD or Nintendo games for.

In that sense you'll get the same thrills from past games. That's also why I didn't give a shit about anything past 3, because I like to play new games not reskins.

I think it's only survived because it is in this niche of socially acceptable "cool" games. You can admit to playing GTA to almost anyone and your not as much a "gamng nerd", but if you like a fantasy RPG your some basement dwelling dweeb. Honestly they are not all that different from each other.

[–] atoro@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

different story, visual upgrades, newer cars

Just spitballing here, but isn't that like 90% of what makes a game? Or at the very least, literally any sequel?

Replacing "cars" with whatever is game-appropriate, of course

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Let's also not forget that much of the talent that built GTA from 1 to 5 left Rockstar and did not work on 6. So there's no reason to believe it will even be as good as the rest of the series has been.

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[–] hoohoohoot@fedinsfw.app 27 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Or

Buy official or pirated physical disc media, pay $0 after optional initial purchase, forever own purchased or pirated+torrented movies

You have to protect your rights, no one else will

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm not sure why we're surprised.

This entire gen has had spotty coverage of physical games at the best of times. Even on the biggest titles.

Just off the top of my head BG3 wasn't even available on disc, and Indiana Jones was only in some overpriced collector's edition.

I guess the odd way GTA6 is putting a code in a box is grabbing the headlines, rather than it just not being available on a disc.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I trust the "code in a box" even less than a digital download, honestly. I've had similar things where it just said my code was invalid, and it was WAY more of a PITA to get it rectified than it should have been. If you ever go that route, keep the receipt!

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Confucius say: Do not lament the bootlicker giving over their paycheck to Rockstar for their entry price to microtaxation. Celebrate instead the indie game that fulfilled your dream of slapping Nazis with a trout.

Is that real? I wanna slap some Nazis with some trout

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