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Help and Support Links
- Freedom From Religion Foundation
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- Atheist Debates - Matt Dillahunty
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Mainstream
Bibliography
Start here...
...proceed here.
- God is Not Great (Hitchens)
- The God Delusion (Dawkins)
- The End of Faith (Harris)
- Why I Am Not a Christian (Russell)
- Letter to a Christian Nation (Harris)
Proselytize Religion
From Reddit
As a community with an interest in providing the best resources to its members, the following wiki links are provided as historical reference until we can establish our own.
GOD IS genderless though, but evangelicals think its a MAN. several movies had made it a woman, to troll how stupid these people are.
they got upset about how angels are not masculinized, like god they are technically genderless, only not within a host.
Thanks for the reminder to rewatch Dogma
Every god is made up and can be whatever gender you want it to be, hun
Yeah no shit, God is imaginary, congratulations you get it. Stop treating every believer you meet like they're fresh out of Sunday school and literally think of God as a literal magic sky fairy.
Ask them how big God's dick is. Tell them you're serious. Make then explain how that's a ridiculous question. Then ask them: if God's gender identity isn't tied to genitals, why do they insist on doing it?
Could God microwave ~~a burrito~~ his penis so hot that not even he couldn't eat it?
Edit: her penis.
Could God's dick be so big, that he himself could not lift it? Then he is not all powerful.
But they never said they don't care about pronouns. In fact they have very strongly stated that they extremely do care about pronouns
I think the point is they don't respect pronouns. They misgender trans people, so misgender their god. Or misgender them! See how they like it.
Twitter: set up strawman; knock it down. Gain followers. Rinse, repeat.
True, the one I always think was strange was when I was 6? I had a 1st grade teacher that was adamant we addressed her and others by the correct form of Ms/Miss/Mrs.
I was 6, I shouldn't have to care at all which adults are romantically involved nor which government documents theyve signed.
I think prefixing Christian god is better. Every time "well thank Christian god you're alright", just subtly remind them there's other religions, they don't like that
After looking at Hinduism, I thought "Yeah, having only one god is pretty boring". I'm sure that's why the Catholic church came up with the concept of saints. They're like demi-gods.
I'm not under your god's jurisdiction.
I used to do exactly this when referring to the generic all-being (as opposed to the Abrahamic god who has a history and a feminine consort), since biological sex is specific to individual species. Also, the X-gamete is the default. The Y-gamete is a weird shortened appendix.
Technically, they/them would be more appropriate in this gender-conscious era. It works better for the holy trinity as well, but that's a post-biblical addition to the Christian dogma.
I've seen God, and she was black.
I take issue with the depiction of God as black or she. When I saw God they had no skin color, because they were not in a form that would ever require skin and they were all genders and none at the same time. Might have been the psychadelics, but I like that interpretation.
Look I think religion is stupid but so is this strawman feelgoodsy argument. So disappointing.
It's not an argument? How did you get an argument out of this?
It's implying that there's some sort of hypocrisy or logical contradiction with Christians suddenly caring about pronouns being correct when it applies to God. But that entire premise is wrong, because as someone else eloquently stated, they never claimed not to care about pronouns, in fact they care about them probably more than most transgender people. They just care about them being their version of "right". The post is very clearly meant to be some sort of gotcha or serve to Christianity. But there is no gotcha, so the whole post is stupid. Really picture the exchange:
A: "I love God, I'm so thankful for how she's blessed me."
C: "She? God is a man. He blessed you."
A: "Ohhh, so now you care about getting pronouns right, but not for someone like Elliot Page, huh?"
C: "No, I always care about getting pronouns right. That's why God is a He and Page is a she, and it pisses me off if you say either of those differently"
???
So with that in mind, we can see this post is just someone owning an imaginary strawman.
Well, it's really about misgendering. They're misgendering God, just like they're misgendering Elliot Page. Elliot Page wants to be called he/him and they want God to be called he/him.
But to the Christians, misgendering is defined as calling someone by the pronouns they "actually aren't", so they would consider he/him pronouns to be misgendering Page. Their notion of misgendering has nothing to do with what the person wants to be called, it has to do with what they fundamentally are. So from that point of view, there's no contradiction in their reasoning. It's internally consistent, and so there's no "revelation" (ha ha) where they're trapped into looking like a fool as this imaginary Twitter post scenario implies. So this whole hypothetical demonstration of calling God a girl still goes nowhere. Go back to my initial dialogue. See how there's no next response for the atheist, how it ends with the atheist having nothing to say? That's why the Le Epic Win in the original post is not what it's presented to be. Its a bad argument. The argument is implicit, but it's there. It's the entire content of the post.
They/them would be more accurate since the god from the Bible is a mixture of different bronze age gods. Did you notice how God is something shown as bloodthirsty and sometimes as benevolent? That is because they took myths and stories from different gods.
The true god cares not what your fleshy bits or squishy bits say is your pronouns. The true god only cares how many dreadnought rated artillery cannons are plugged directly into your brainstem.
I serve the Omnissiah.
The flesh is weak, but steel endures.
This reminds me I was stopped in the street a few years ago by someone explaining some newer Korean Christian based religio/sect which believes that there are two images of God, the father and the mother, as humans were created in God's image. I think it is this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Mission_Society_Church_of_God
Super interesting. There was another newer Korean christian movement that discusses the feminine side of God. Do you think that maybe Taoism and the concept of yin-yang had an impact on their image of God?
To be honest my first thought was that they were riding the feminism wave to market their religion. But I have not researched it much.
God says right in the bible that they are enby.
The character of god is basically the ultimate shape shifter. For a being capable of shaping reality with just a thought, I gotta think such a being would be in a pretty constant phase of modifying itself, not just it's reality.
"He" vs "she" doesn't even scratch the tip of the iceberg when you look at god's arsenal of gender and sex characteristics - just look at some of the crazy shit it put here on earth. And I mean all of it, from the familiar dangly bits in our own pants to like a lizard's cloaca, to pollinators, etc.
You know the whole "biblically accurate angel" spiel with the trippy shifting eyes? I gotta think god's junk is a similar kaleidoscopic amalgamation of scrotums, clitorises, corkscrew duck penises, pollen, etc; all covered with a hefty amount of pubic hair and buckets of mucous.
Amen.