Proprietary OS. Idc if it is "Linux". Android is Linux, and AOSP is open source. Why use a proprietary Linux distro over something like GrapheneOS which is fully free and open source software. I don't think any person who cares about their privacy should use SailfishOS. It really seems like privacy-washing and OSS-washing. I say kick proprietary Linux distros out of the community.
this post was submitted on 29 Jul 2026
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Oh shut up.
This is why we can’t have nice things. Everytime something took a step in the right direction the past two decades in open source, someone started throwing toenails around, scaring off people.
And while you throw ”proprietary” around with the toenails, you are the one here telling people to throw money at Google to buy a pixel. At least put your money where your mouth is and buy libre hardware.
Agreed, annoying how much people are moving the goalpost for this thing. It's an actually usable alternative to android and ios, with hardware features literally voted by the community. It's not perfect, but it's actually viable, with features people actually wanted.
This is why we can't have nice things. Everytime something took a step in the right direction the past two decades in open source, someone started throwing toenails around, scaring off people.
nice to see GrapheneOS getting the kudos they deserve.
The Graphene team are probably fantastic people.
The toenail-slingers are usually not writing that much code.
Buying a used pixel on eBay doesn’t give Google any money. I agree with the rest of you point but I think it’s facetious to act like you have no option but to pay Google directly to get a pixel.
Second hand market also drives demand.
Ubuntu, Android... even they have proprietary parts. That’s the business. SailfishOS does too, but only a small part (~20%) is proprietary, like some UI components and hardware drivers. It’s not fully closed, just a pragmatic mix to work on real devices. So yes, you gotta pay the Jolla team.
No, you misunderstood me I think. I’m happy to throw money at Jolla, and I have done so.
I’m not impressed about people complaining that Sailfish is ”proprietary” while handing money over to Google.
My answer is along the same lines as yours 😉
I just want to buy this how can I in America
I'd be very careful about ordering something designed for another continent's cell network.
Absolutely! There is also a forum thread that discusses this topic: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/would-the-new-2026-jolla-phone-work-in-the-us/30366
Obviously you can use a parcel forwarding package https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/potential-us-customers-for-new-jolla-phone/30640/1
Depending on what you value and expect from a "more" private device than the main hardware brands and their software these are not particularly secure physically, and to some extent via software. It's somewhere between pixel flavor of Android and grapheneos. Steps in the right direction. I will be watching for future versions especially as they come to be viable in the US.
Little reading on what I'm referring without a deep (and albeit opinionated) dive by the graphene team on the hardware, and similar but done by other teams for sailfish specifically.
https://hivesecurity.gitlab.io/blog/jolla-phone-privacy-threat-model-2026/
Edit: That is opinionated as in the architectural decisions and trade offs made to reach a certain level of protection not as in bias or "opinions". Aka software usage of opinionated in the way that a framework might be.
Edit Two: Listed graphene as the high end of security for our current offerings in the consumer space that are still considered full featured smart phones. iOS is also a contender, but they aren't as concerned with privacy as grapheneos is. They are a business first. Privacy for them while it does exist is a means to an end. Marketing doing it's thing.
The alternative is FairPhone and e/OS (OpenSource)