I dont think those things are acceptable regardless of the doctrine your country follows.

It's almost like the problem is authoritarianism, not the economic system

It would be really nice if folks understood that authoritarianism will always ultimately oppress them, regardless of which ideology it serves.

And it would be doubly awesome if we could deconstruct those ideologies, take from each what works for the betterment of humanity, and build a way out of this ass backwards dystopia instead of shrieking "TankiE!" "FaCisT!!" "WoKE!" at each other.

But that might be a little too much to expect from a world full of hairless apes.

Add private property seizure to the list. They're using eminent domain to take homes to build for AI infrastructure.

Really, the thing that people fear is authoritarianism. And it can happen in any government so long as power is consolidated. If structures remain broad and flat with many checks and balances it prevents corruption more readily.

And, well, capitalism has a head start. The foundation is making more profit. Capital will reward those who are the most unempathetic and narcissistic as they are the most ready to exploit others. And through that exploitation, they earn profit, and work to deregulate and consolidate to continue generating profit.

Capitalism is working as intended. Authoritarianism is a happy bedfellow.

This is non sequitur.

"Bad thing happens under system X, therefore system X is uniquely responsible/bad."

No. We have an entire history to refer to where these things also happen under socialism, communism, feudalism, fascism, theocratic states, monarchies, juntas, etc. It's also ballsy to try make the claim, because if there is significant relation between systemic ideologies and these symptoms, rather than a more anthropological one, then socialist or communist states are the historical leader with Stalin, Mao's China, East Germany, NK's juche, etc. But only a moron would neglect the actual causes, generally concentrated and unaccountable power(s). Socialism and capitalism are just optional toppings. It's like saying "the pizza is burned because you chose anchovies and not pineapple".

And that kind of this vs that leads into what's really going on here, one of the internet's favourite passtimes; tribalism. Pick a team, learn enough about the game to follow what's going on, go to war with whatever rivals your new peers tell you too, scream nonsensical things from the armchair. So an identity-protective cognition ends up with a post lacking comparison and history, for a conclusion OP's in-group is committed to. I e. such a post does nothing for outreach to non-socialist thinkers, even though OP thinks they're provoking thoughts. Ironically, only someone inflicted by this wouldn't be able to see it.

Yeah, because its all projection from capitalist about what they would do with power.

I've seen several times where somebody posts a picture saying "Look what socialism causes," and the picture is like a tent city in modern America that was created under capitalism.

Makes sense when you think about it, wouldn't you do the same if you were intending on ruling over a group of people like despots?

The fun thing is that none of those things have ever been a symptom of communism/socialism. The authoritarian states, that refer/referred to themselves by those names despite having nothing to do with them in reality, wished to maintain unitary control of the people and implemented those things and bled the people dry in spite of the egalitarian nature of their supposed communism/socialism. But those things absolutely are symptoms of capitalism, where unitary control and draining every dime you can from anyone you can is part of the system.

Here we go again. This is what happens when people don't understand the difference between an economic system and a system of government.

Capitalism and socialism are economic models. Democracy, authoritarianism, dictatorship, and communism are systems of government. They are not interchangeable, nor are they mutually exclusive.

You can have democratic capitalism, authoritarian capitalism, democratic socialism, and authoritarian socialism. History has provided examples of every combination.

Mass surveillance, censorship, political corruption, police abuse, and restrictions on protest are all functions of how a government exercises power. They are not inherent features of capitalism or socialism.

Posts like this don't demonstrate some profound insight into economics. They demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding of basic political science. The fact that this kind of meme gets shared uncritically is a good indication of just how widespread that ignorance has become online.

I think the trick is that evil capitalism sells it to you as something you'd actually want. Or a lot of people want. Meanwhile evil communism kinda forces it onto people more directly.

Store all of your private data on some storage devices sitting anywhere in the world and let people manage it you do not know and can not be sure they're not accessing it?
That's the convenience of the cloud!

Let some weirdos obsess over your social life, connections, and what you ate for breakfast to sell that data and show you stuff that manipulates you to do their bidding?
That's the advantage of staying in touch with friends and family over social networks!

Carry a device with you that tracks your whereabouts and monitors each and every interaction you have with it? That's smartphones for you. But hey, at least you can find your way to the next McDonalds thanks to the navigation and map apps.

And this was "just" the technological aspect of things.

Hm maybe this tells us that authoritarian systems can emerge no matter the economic model?

From what I understand, the narrative is that these things are inevitable. Natural emergent states of the world. No point fighting it, etc etc. Even the billionaires think as much, that's why they invest in insulating themselves from it.

So it's not that these things are avoidable/preventable, so much as wouldn't you rather the GOOD guys be in charge of the fiefdoms?

Peak capitalism.

Scientific Socialism people, look it up its the only way forward

But we can't do socialism. The novels would get way longer, and we're already suffering a crisis of attention spans and literacy.

so no one understands socialism.