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[–] 129 points 2 months ago (15 children)

When you spur of the moment decide to turn your gaming pc into a proxmox machine and then miss gaming so you end up down a rabbit hole of iommu groups to pass your Gpu through to a steam os VM to wrestle with Linux virtual display drivers so you can use sunshine to cast your games to your laptop

It eventually worked but you can quickly end up in a niche hell hole with little to no coherent documentation.

Trash guides is a gateway drug

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  • [–] 32 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Is it worth it after that's all said and done?

    I'd love to power gaming in my house from a central server, but I keep imagining that it would be spotty and frustrating as hell.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Game streaming is good, but not perfect. It's useable, but you do get the occasional stutter, dropped frames, connection issues, etc. Not to mention increased input lag.

    If you must have your PC in a different room, you'd be better off buying an optical hdmi cord. That's what I do for gaming on my TV after playing a few games through various game streaming apps and getting fed up with it.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Your mileage will vary some hardware has better support than others latency can be an issue on titles that are sensitive to it.

    Rocket league is unplayable but survival craft games play really well!

    The most straightforward approach to dabbling with it would be to install classicoldsongs Apollo on a windows machine it includes virtual display drivers that just work out the box, pair a moonlight client and see how it works for you!

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    [–] 42 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    lol at 'accidental' beta testers. I tell my family they're testing my shit

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    [–] 37 points 2 months ago

    I think I have reached stage 4: No hosting, off-site backup is on an external SSD in a locker at work

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    The thing that I hate about self-hosting is that a lot of apps that could just be a plain offline thing are instead being designed to be super bloated server-docker things. Databases are not reasonably portable data formats.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    An sqlite database is a perfectly fine portable data format.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Or, and apparently this is crazy these days - I can just use a file that's in a format appropriate to what I'm trying to do, compatible with the simpler offline app it was made for, and then just use a more general purpose syncing method whether online or sneakernet if I need to do some kind of data transfer - as opposed to accumulating an ever expanding collection of server stacks that are just redundantly doing the same kind of thing anyway while needlessly adding an insane amount of attack surface.

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    [–] 24 points 2 months ago

    Stage 5 - you live in the woods and talk to a rock

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    With this sort of thing, I'm always left wondering what I'm missing in terms of the hardware. Like, I've been collecting bits and bobs of old hardware for years, but it feels like if I want anything more than an absolutely basic raspberry-pi-level server, I need to buy dedicated hardware. For example, I want to put together a nas, especially since I do have a collection of spare, old hard drives, but would want raid for that. Unfortunately, its rare to find a mobo that has more than four sata ports, and all the power supplies I have available to harvest from other systems are either too weak, or are proprietary, meaning I'm halfway to buying a new PC anyway. Is there something I'm missing, or do others just have more disposable income?

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    You can get an PCIe HBA on ebay for $50-60 bucks and will allow you to connect 8 disks to a single system. Look for ones that specifically say they have been flashed to IT mode which will let the host system address the individual drives and enable you to use MDADM for RAID. My "Server" is literally just the old motherboard from my gaming PC with 4x 8TB drives connected to one of those ebay HBAs.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    You dont have 11 leftover/trash computers/laptops/harddrives your family dumped on you? Im 26 and ive been given legitimately 16 different computers from my mom, dad, grandparents, and in-laws

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Where do you think all the aforementioned hard drives came from? Lol. Its just that so many of the other parts are proprietary/old that I can't mix-and-match to make something more useful. For a breif period, I had four separate working desktops, and not one had a standard power supply or mobo. I swear all of that should be made illegal.

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    [–] 20 points 2 months ago

    I'm definitely stage 3 but it's still an enjoyable hobby that isn't that time-consuming. I think stage 4 is creating your own services and spamming social media in search of users.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago

    I’m worried I don’t know if I’m 2 or 3

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I just use flash drives to transfer stuff from my computer to the ipad so i can watch in bed lol, keep my music on an mp3 player

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    [–] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    "Wow these R730/R740 ear destroying rack servers are super cheap on ebay"

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    No lie, they're awesome. I've got two R720s, and they really aren't bad. I leave one off. The other runs 4-5 VMs and doesn't spin loud at all. Lack rack, surplus drives, a refurbed UPS and it just goes.

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    [–] 16 points 2 months ago
    1. I do this shit for money I ain't going to do it for free. I'm not about to be the 24/7 unpaid on call for my families pagerduty rota. Paid cloud services for me
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    Same, been there for a decade.

    I'm careful about what I want to host because I know I'm the asshole that needs to fix it when it breaks, and password managers that my wife uses are 100% off the self-hosted menu.

    Vaultwarden requires Bitwarden to keep on allowing client access. Even if there are FOSS plugins/clients, I still need ot host it between my house and a cloud and it needs to be highly available.

    I'll keep paying for that one.

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    [–] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Only 27 containers? That rookie numbers... You gotta pump those up!

    I'm currently sitting at 131 containers across 3 Kubernetes nodes, all bare-metal though, no virtualization.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    131 containers seems crazy to me. How many actual services does that translate to? Is it actually closer to 50 services running in parallel on three different nodes for redundancy?

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Nonsense! The old laptop I run proxmox, home assistant, and most of my containers on is mounted to the wall in the garage, not under the stairs.

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    [–] 14 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Stage 4: code your own social network and run it on the ThinkPad under the stairs with a DB server in a wardrobe.. Fight scrapers and spammers incessantly.

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    [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    4th is writing your own self hosted tools

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    I've been pretty happy in #2 for years.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Laptops have an integrated UPS!

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Level 4 would be using some sort of off-grid decentralized networking instead of the internet?

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    [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    Stage 4: "I'm done. This isn't worth it and I don't actually NEED any of it! rm -rf / it all and wander silently off into the woods. Curl up on a mound of moss and watch all the things that bumble."

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Me transition from stage 1 to stage 2, nervously.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Just wait till stage 4 - I've got a 12u server rack, separate 6u networking cabinet, 80+ containers running on multiple VMs managed by multiple Proxmox nodes and all my infrastructure is transitioning to OpenTofu and OpenBao so I can spin up new VMs, manage the containers with Komodo, etc and all managed with single sign on. I've got ~$12k sunk into my local AI server alone. I have like 2 active users besides myself...

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    i uhh yeah host abt 10 containers on an i7 laptop currently. in my small office (kids bedroom) closet. I do also have a 3tb storage available but its what I had … an external wd drive. sigh. i am nbr 3 huh?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I use a NAS for backup and I am always concerned about the backup being in the same physical location as the primary. I still haven't figured out the best way to resolve that.

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    [–] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    2 and 3 are the same and you're deluded if you think otherwise

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    [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    I left all of that shit behind and now just use VLC to stream to any pc on my network from a shared drive.

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    [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Stage 4 clustered servers so k8s can keep the containers up and configured

    Stage 5 GitOps

    Stage 6 federated clusters on your buddies infrastructure so each of you have off site high availability. Or hardware squirled away at families houses.

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    [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    I had my own Nextcloud and Home Assistant (on a raspberry pi) for years and they're awesome, but I really don't have a use case for specialized stuff like jellyfin or vaultwarden. I just slap my media and a keepass file on my Nextcloud and I'm happy!

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