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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Diva@lemmy.ml to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Hi all, thank you for reading my post. modlod link

In the 196 sub an OP was asking for advice on how to change their friends opinions which they disapprove of, because they were trying to warn them off of 'the tankie triad' and their friend didn't have any issues with what they were seeing and was in fact subscribed to a number of instance already.

Clocks got banned first after suggesting that the OP try to be a genuine friend and try to find some common cause in real life rather than alienating people over abstract geopolitical factionalism:

[> The original post feels like bait, but here is an authentic response.

Maybe genuinely be their friend instead of alienating them based on political flavoring. Perhaps you can be better working together to help others in your locality or communities than squandering over geopolitical matters. Swallow your frustrations, being annoyed is a part of being in a community. You can move on. ](https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog?commentId=13347091)

I raised the issue that censoring earnest advice as 'tankie apologia' and preemtively writing off any common cause/ isolating people is no way to win people over either as friends or comrades.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if 'genuinely be their friend' is 'tankie apologia' to be censored, I'm not sure you're going to be very successful convincing anyone of anything in the real world.

I then got banned for this one, for continuing to find 'the tankie triad' extremely silly:

yeah that's the context, I was just laughing because:

  1. only Lemmy users with an axe to grind call them that
  2. it sounds really silly, like they're a nemesis to dr venture.
  3. I'm supposed to be the melodramatic one yet every day I get one-upped 😔

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I'm not here to tell them how to run their comm, my position is that this is way more draconian than anything I've run into in any of 'the tankie triad'. The same groups of people loudly complaining about censorship on 'tankie' run instances don't seem to have a problem enforcing vague/arbitrary vibes based censorship in their spaces.

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[–] will_steal_your_username@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago (17 children)

It was mostly for your comment defending the other poster, and for the axe grinding comment. That combined with your stance that ukraine should not defend itself against russian aggression in your comment history made your comments read as you defending tankies.

You were also warned prior to the ban yet continued to make comments in the same vein as before.

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[–] will_steal_your_username@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

For anyone wondering why we have such strict rules regarding tankies in our community, it's because they have a tendency to try to worm their way into leftist spaces. Tankies constantly try to convince everyone that they are leftists and that being opposed to working with them is "leftist infighting", yet they will defend nation states which oppress unions, commit genocides, or do straight up imperialism. All the same things that capitalist nations do. They either embrace these things or deny they happened, or explain that they were somehow necessary. Some are earnest in how they try to convince others, and some know their stances are not popular and try to be subtle.

Tankies are not leftists, and disagreeing with them is not arbitrary. Based on this we have decided to not platform them on 196. This is mentioned in the sidebar and anyone who does not like this is free to go elsewhere. Additionally, we usually give a warning if the infringing comments are not too bad. Both instances posted about here were instances where they were warned yet continued with their behavior.

Edit: We also don't mind tankies being active on 196, we only mind them defending tankies or proselytizing.

[–] galanthus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If Marxists are not leftist, I do not know who is.

[–] will_steal_your_username@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I described authoritarians. Socialists, communists, and anarchists are not tankies unless they defend authoritarian regimes.

[–] galanthus@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Well, they have dominated Marxist politics for quite a while, and I am not sure you can say they are not leftists because they are authoritarian, they have a lot more in common ideologically with other Marxists/socialists than the right, just because they prefer certain methods does not mean they are not leftists, and they do have traits that have always been associated with leftism, like opposition to tradition, monarchy, even capitalism, desire for revolution, etc.

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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Tankies are not leftists

based on my observations so far pretty much everyone getting called 'tankie' on lemmy is a leftist, and many of the people most vocally opposed to 'tankies' on lemmy act a lot like crypto fascists.

[–] will_steal_your_username@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I for sure have seen liberals throwing that word around thinking commie and tankie are interchangeable. We however use the term correctly.

My experience is that those that complain the loudest about this tend to be obvious tankies in their comment history. I've seen many be angry at how the word is used and then have posts on .ml where they proudly call themselves a tankie.

Most of the people we ban are worse than you, and call ukrainians vermins, some deny the tiananmen square massacre, or make bogus claims about how communist the CCP or russia today is. They are almost always from .ml.

.ml absolutely has a problem with tankies. That you continue to believe that most tankies are just leftists or that your stance on ukraine is not problematic makes it pretty clear who you are.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm 'problematic' because I have had family directly affected. As a result I am not going to be dogmatically committed to seeing a war prolonged when all that is being accomplished is normal people dying on both sides while war industries and profiteers make money hand over fist.

The only wars that don't end with diplomacy are the ones where we all end up dead.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Ok, well the war could end today if Putin leaves. The only nation not trying to end it is Russia. They started it, and they’re prolonging it.

But I suppose it has been awhile since a Russian ruler has killed millions of his own people, Putin probably figured it was due.

[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 1 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I'm not here to tell them how to run their comm

And yet here you are. I took a brief look at their sidebar rules and it's pretty clear that you broke one or two of their rules. I don't think that's a power trip. That's moderation. The Tankie Triad are also very heavily moderated.

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

YDI you went to a thread with a specific anti-tankie topic in a comm that is explicitly no tankies

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The definition of 'tankie' is pretty clearly arbitrary and vibes based. I'm an anarchist, I've organized with anarchists for years. Sorry if I don't pass some terminally online litmus test.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereo

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/tankie

(politics, slang, derogatory, by extension) A supporter of policies and actions by the Soviet Union, China, Cuba or other authoritarian socialist (chiefly Marxist-Leninist) governments.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I support the positive changes for society that happen regardless of the government, however ultimately all of them are still going to be representing a hierarchy to be dismantled at the end of the day.

I have a long litany of criticism for all of the countries listed, but this is is not an appropriate place to get into that. Generally any nuance gets lost from the conversation as soon as some online demagogue declares that it's either total ideological conformity or you're a tankie.

Not to get condescending, I try to avoid being dogmatic myself, but it's a comfortable impulse. Actual human interaction requires curiosity, tolerance and not treating broad groups of people like a monolith. Like you can discard legitimate advice because you don't like the messengers, but in the end it's you who is worse off for it.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (11 children)

I do not think I have seen you once criticize China or Russia, because if you had you would be more in line with me than you think.

Every government has done things worthy of praise and condemnation. To me an anarchist, at the very least, would be shitting on all the governments from the US to the CCP to the DPRK and everywhere in between

But I don't see that from you or any other known tankie who also claims to be an anarchist. You have a pretty clear pattern of criticizing the West and then covering for what should be criticized of the CCP/Russia/NK etc.

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[–] will_steal_your_username@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I truly do hope you are an anarchist. However most anarchists tend to be in favor of shooting the people trying to kill you and annex you into their dictatorship. Perhaps there is something about your stance I don't understand.

In either case, I stand by that Clocks was making light of the oppression of dictatorships, and that suggesting that tankies and leftists only minorly disagree is tankie apologia. Defending that and then telling someone that the tankie problem on the tankie instances is overblown does make you look like a tankie to me. Also remember that you were banned for your last comments after you were warned, not for your first comment making fun of the term tankie triad.

If this is wrong I apologize, but I don't really see any other way to read you based on your behavior so far.

Edit: I do sympathize with your anti profiteering stance and that you want to reduce the death count, but I can't really see russia not killing people after annexing ukraine.

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[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

YDI.

Lemmy.blahaj.zone specifically is for trans folks. You're not going to make friends there defending authoritarianism, and it's part of their actual rules.

They also ban based on what your account does outside of their instance, and more than just this specific instance has you defending tankies (and it looks like, on cursory glance, you identify as one) so that would lead to a banning.

Don't worry though, there are a lot of folks banned from there who are sour about it who'll be along shortly to say PTB.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

A lot of communities outside the “tankie triad” kind of autoremove anything that looks slightly suspicious coming from a “tankie triad” instance. I understand your POV but I don’t think it really reflects poorly on the moderators. BPR.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

YDI. Leftist unity is bullshit tankies spout when they plan on murdering leftists as soon as we help them get into power. I wouldn’t expect any less from a .ML user though.

The absolute gall of you to come here, on an actually leftist instance, to complain we aren’t being nice enough to tankies.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Blahaj janitors are trolls, but tankies are worse.

Stay on .ml

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I go where I please. Not sure why you feel the need to tell me off, but ok.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like you don't go there anymore

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