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This website made me reconsider if 99.9999% SLA and always online is really that important for lots of websites. I used to self-host my own server in my own apartment, but gave up on that after my internet provider had their first major outage that lasted almost a week. Also I didn't want to worry about the fire hazard, or the server going down when I was traveling etc.

But a solar powered server seems interesting, if the batteries could be made fire safe.

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[–] markstos@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

I host my personal site at home with a 15-min battery backup. After that, I accept the downtime. Rarely happens and I haven’t had a single complaint when it does.

[–] cloudshouter@lemmy.zip 6 points 17 hours ago

Having everything open, on and available 24/7/365 sounds nice until you realize the human toll for things which aren’t that necessary and can be planned around. Down time is a good thing.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

doesn’t every website go down when there is no power? ;)

[–] Gibibit@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I think the point is to run on solar energy. Being blackout resistant is not an end goal.

Edit: Ohh you're talking about the post title lol

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Only if there is no power everywhere. Some run redundancies in multiple locations.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

So.... You're saying that if there's no power the website goes down.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago

I used to work on the website for a utility company that insisted on ridiculous uptime. Our major deployments risked taking the system down for a few seconds, though in practice that never happened.

As a result, they made us do deployments starting at 3:00 in the morning since that was the least active time on the site. Fuuuuuuuuck that place.

[–] ATPA9@feddit.org 73 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The uptime looks better than GitHubs...

[–] Gekkonen@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I know this is a typo, but I'm sad Guthub isn't a food delivery company.

[–] teslekova@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

A disappointment equivalent to Piefed.

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

gut pull sandwich.com

gut commit -m "ate too much"
gut push

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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 10 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

"Hey look everyone! We never heard of grid scale batteries!"

[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This website is like 10 years old from memory, well before grid-scale batteries were widespread (well they still aren't in many countries).

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 hours ago

Right, and I'm older than the Sony Walkman and that's why I never heard about "internet".

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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 100 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I have never been a fan of anything above 3 nines of uptime even in a business situation.

Your business will not collapse because of 10 min of downtime a week, and if it does that is not technologies fault.

I don't even bother to track my home setup.

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 89 points 1 day ago (5 children)

My home server is 100% up, because I never check it and that's how it works, right?

[–] hanke@feddit.nu 11 points 1 day ago

My home server is 100% up, because I run the checks from the same machine

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago

I didn't turn it down, so it's obviously up.

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[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus 24 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Your business will not collapse because of 10 min of downtime a week, and if it does that is not technologies fault.

Hospitals? Air traffic control? Power grid operators? Like these are exceptional businesses, but they're out there.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

I agree, but the number of business that have actual need for extreme uptime is insignificant compared to the number of businesses that don't but think for some stupid reason they do.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 7 minutes ago)

My brother is an air traffic controller at one of the world's busiest international airports and I can assure your their system uptime is no where close to 3 9s.

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[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

100% uptime since the last time we turned it on!

[–] weps@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

works every time half of the time!

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[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Companies claiming 99.9999 uptime is an absurd goal for a SLA, and wouldn’t even survive a small internet outage like a DDoS attack or Akamai outage. I remember in the 90s selling the idea of 5 9’s - 99.999% on my resume until some manager who Interviewed me asked me to state the expected downtime. I stopped claiming that number because it’s impossible without full active redundancy in different locations and not dependent on external providers like cloudflare ever going down.

And please don’t argue maintenance windows “cover it” because that’s not how they work in the real world today.

Downtime per year:

  • 99% ~3.65 days (5,256 min)
  • 99.9% ~8.77 hours (526 min)
  • 99.99% ~52.6 min
  • 99.999% ~5.26 min
  • 99.9999% ~31.5 seconds

For my home lab I’m happy my stuff is online and content I hardly lose access when there’s a power outage thanks to my ups. But if I tracked I’d be closer to 95%. Good enough but I can’t wait till I just don’t care to run anything.

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[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Over a period of roughly one year (351 days, from 12 December 2018 to 28 November 2019) the server was up for 95.26% of the time. This means that we were offline for 399 hours (which corresponds to 16.64 days).

Not bad at all really, at least for non-mission critical sites. I have solar and I really like it. Solar power on two barns, and a lot of my security cams run on solar. I'm not sure if it's the formatting of this site, or the grainy pictures, but it oddly reminds me of the Trojan Room coffee pot.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Of course, it depends on the website. I'd be unhappy if my banking site went down for more than a day.

ihavenotv.com could go down for weeks, and I wouldn't fret it.

[–] Bismyth@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is actually great!
Social media sites should do this. There's never a good reason to be on [Insert Corporate Slop Social Media Website here] at 3AM.

[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Never a good reason, like different timezones, different working/sleeping hours. Theres no better or worse hour for every single person.

[–] Chaf@slrpnk.net 6 points 23 hours ago

It's not like those major social media sites don't have some kind of data center (or rent one) in every "major" (population wise) timezone they operate in. Your other arguments still hold true, but I think even then it would be better for all of us if those websites went down every now and then.

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[–] eyekaytee@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

This was cool 5 years ago, now you can get solar panels and a home battery big enough to power this thing 24x7 without an issue, even if the sun was fully blacked out for a week

edit: a 40kwh battery would last with the power draw:

Power usage 2.62W

like over a year

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

A 40Kwh battery is like 10 grand, I'm not sure why you brought that up. I'd be more likely to invest in a second battery and solar panel. It's been up for over 23 weeks right now, I'd guess a second solar panel and battery could keeping it up nearly 100% of the time, and it'd cost under $100 for a 200wh battery and 30w panel.

[–] morto@piefed.social 6 points 22 hours ago

Now they can get better hardware, but should they? They take seriously the low tech part, and part of being low tech is fighting against consumerism culture and keeping with what they have, which is wotking fine

[–] Gekkonen@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 day ago

There's a lot of articles about supply based usage vs demand based energy production on that website. The idea that it turns off every now and then is sort of part of the authors' intention of showing "we can live with some outages".

This article in particular is a good one: https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2017/09/how-not-to-run-a-modern-society-on-solar-and-wind-power-alone/

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[–] phil@openmic.social 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Interesting concept. I haven't seen lowtechmagazine before, going to have to definitely check it out.

I spin down our development environments when they have sit idle for a period of time, not at all the same but makes me think deeper about the entire concept.

Update: This is a really cool website. I see some fun projects here too that I could have my kids work on!

[–] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago

It's nearly 20 years old. Originally a Belgian site only available on the .be domain.

His blog got integrated in an other website for a while but then came back to www.lowtech.be after some years.

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[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There's a nifty project on Mastodon where someone is running an instance entirely on solar (and I think a battery?). They've been tinkering with some of the code to do things like optimise images for reduced weight or CPU cost.

The project is called @solaradmin@solarcene.community and the account for the person running it is on a separate instance, presumably so people can message them about problems: @smallsolar@techhub.social.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

1000004480

congrats guys! we killed it!

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's honestly impressive what you can do with under 3W of power these days

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[–] Kirk@startrek.website 8 points 1 day ago

I love Low Tech magazine! I have been reading them for years.

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