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As a Californian, I fricken hate these Red States.
As a Hoosier, so do I.
American here. I love my country.
But they should absolutely turn the screws.
Canada has always been a good friend to the US, both in peace and in wartime. When we had wildfires Canada sent us aircraft, crews, supplies. When we were at war in Iraq and Afghanistan Canada sent us some of the best sniper teams anywhere. Canada has always been a peacetime friend and trade partner and we exchange a lot of goods, services, and tourism in both directions.
And then we decide to fuck them over for no reason. We spent 3-4 decades offshoring every bit of American manufacturing and willingly, gleefully, built ourselves a giant trade imbalance because doing so increased shareholder value. Now we realize that might be a bad thing so what do we do? We fuck over our friends, one of the few countries that stood by us through thick and thin. Canada has done nothing to deserve this.
If I were a Canadian, I'd be right fucking pissed (politely of course) that our 100+ year friend is doing this. And quite frankly, I'd be right.
So yeah, while I want my country to succeed, in this instance we deserve to fail and we should fail. Canada deserves better than this.
If I were a Canadian, I'd be right fucking pissed (politely of course) that our 100+ year friend is doing this. And quite frankly, I'd be right.
I genuinely hope we cease all trade with you entirely. You as a nation can no longer be trusted, no matter what happens over the next few years. The fact this happened in the first place is an inexcusable failure on the part of every American.
Our empire is collapsing.
Well said
Thanks :)
Well that's how you prep for a midterm. Fuck with one country's politics, expect to get hit in the nose.
Carney isn't one to fuck with. Look close on which riding he took when he ran for election. Look close at the neighboring riding.
Dude leans on known adversaries. He got his moves mapped 20 fold
75% of Canadians supported Carney backing out of the trade deal. This is despite the fact that it will cause massive economic hardship to Canada to accept these tariffs.
Canadians are pissed, and are willing to accept economic hardship in order to stand up to a bully.
For decades Canada has just accepted whatever the US has demanded. For example, Canada has aligned its copyright laws to match US laws, which Hollywood was demanding. It has accepted that Canadians installing a Canadian-made app on their phones have to pay a 30% cut to an American company.
This was because the US, in exchange, was giving Canada free access to the American market. Canadian potash, lumber, energy, etc. could all be sold to the US without tariffs. Now Trump has reneged on that deal.
Carney has promised counter-tariffs, but I want to see a real trade war. Fuck the US copyright laws. Fuck the DMCA. Fuck American printers that won't allow you to use your own ink. Fuck US tractors that can only be repaired by their US manufacturer. Canada should not only refuse to honour US intellectual property, I want Americans to travel to Canada to get their phones unlocked, to pay Canadians online for software to de-DRM their printers. What's the downside? The US will counter with tariffs? Done that. The US will try to cut Canada's access to Netflix off? We have bittorrent here.
Americans keep talking about this being a David vs Goliath fight, but for an ultra-religious country, they sure don't seem to remember how that bible story ended.
Edited to add: In the early days of the USA it was a pirate nation, in many ways. There were Americans acting as privateers, basically pirates who were protected / supported by the US. The US also was infamous for ignoring copyrights on authors from Europe.
I don't think it's very likely that Canada is going to be brave enough to repeal the copyright laws that the US forced Canada into adopting. But, maybe, a 21st century "privateer" is possible. What if Carney walked over to the head of the RCMP and off the record put the word out that the RCMP was to stop cooperating with the FBI on any actions against Canadians accused of violating US IP laws. What if the government decriminalized laws against circumventing copyright protection.
For a long while before marijuana was legalized, it was decriminalized. It was pretty common to see people smoking pot on the street, which was technically illegal, and a cop would just walk by and ignore it. But, that was all done in an above-board way. I think it's entirely possible something like that could be done through back channels with nothing written down.
Economic hardship is coming either way, the deal wasn't fair and Trump would reneg either way. Good on Canadians for not trying appeasement.
allowing our pharmaceutical companies to make any us drug ignoring patents/licenses would be pretty brutal.
And many Americans would love Canada if Canadians would sell them those drugs at costs far below what the American Pharma industry was charging.
That would be a great move, piss off the US pharma companies while getting on the good side of individual Americans.
The religious people here don't actually read their book, they get told what to think.
In the early days of the USA it was a pirate nation, in many ways. There were Americans acting as privateers, basically pirates who were protected / supported by the US.
Oh, the year was 1778
How I wish I was in Sherbrooke now
A letter of marque came from the king
To the scummiest vessel I've ever seen
God damn them all, I was told
We'd cruise the seas for American gold
We'd fire no guns, shed no tears
Now I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier
The last of Barrett's privateers
25% of Canadians need to move to a trailer park in Orlando.
Just goes to show Canada is the nicest place: despite all the bs we’re shoveling their way, they’re still acting as friends, trying to help us past our mental breakdown without harming the rest of us
We are not happy with you, we are being nice but we are not happy with you. Most of us want to burn your Whitehouse again like back in 1812.
Lots of damage has been done and I would say there is more coming from your orange mussolini.
The fact that there isn't 100k people in front of the Whitehouse protesting daily at this point tells us your population doesn't care about how your country is changing.
We would move away from you if we could because you have betrayed our good nature.
You cant absolve what has happened by pretending it hasn't happened.
We will never be the "51st state" but maybe we will liberate you one day and you can become Canadian.
I mean, I dont buy anything from the states anymore. Blue or red state, I dont care. I aint buying it. Sucks but its an economic war.
Also I dont want to get sick from your rotten-ass produce.
They're the best friend we ever had and I like them a hell of a lot more than red states these days
Positive reinforcement works as well! Gotta give blue states something good to entice fence sitters. For instance, you could annex Minnesota.
Sincerely
A Minnesotan
New York is right here for the taking. Annex Niagra Falls!
Gross. Niagara Falls NY is a shithole full of chemical toxins.
The thing that really gets me is americans still believe they have something to offer Canadians. For heaven’s sake, america is now at 29 on the Transparency International ranking of Corrupt Countries. This list ranks countries on the basis of public bribery, misuse of public funds, abuse of public office for personal gain, nepotism in civil service, and state capture.
Think about that. The usa is more corrupt than the UAE. Why would anyone or any country want to drop to the level of the usa? There is nothing appealing about the usa anymore. The food is poison, the inequality is off the scale, the corruption allowing tech bros and billionaires to buy government, etc, etc, etc.
america has been sleep walking into the new slavery and cheer when they get beaten by another corrupt regime.
Edit addition. Lots of comments mention that the data is a couple of years old, and that more recent would show a much worse position. i suspect the comments are correct, but this is all that’s publicly available.
Oh my god stop im at work someone mark this NSFW holy shit. Love it when tops talk sexy tho
For Americans who may not know, when Trump said:
"...primarily Governor Carney, and his Flunky, Ford..."
He was referring to Prime Minister Carney, not a governor, and the Ontario Provincial Premier Doug Ford. They aren't even in the same party. Doug Ford is kind of a Canadian Trump Lite who keeps winning elections despite only getting 30-40% of the vote. He's just very loud and I wish journalists would stop quoting him.
Ford is an absolute piece of shit, yeah. He's a conservative who has absolutely gutted our healthcare, education, social services and countless other things. He's also currently in a war against bikes and has been getting bike lanes ripped out all over the province.
I hate him with a passion but he has at least been very offensive in asserting our sovereignty which is nice even if it's completely shallow and done purely for his own self interests. Marlaine on the other hand though...
I know he's a conservative piece of shit but I will never get the bike thing. Usually his issues are all about capitalism and private ownership and bullshit like that.
He called him governor to continue the threat of making Canada an American state. And boy is America in a state.
Jesus Christ. This is the most highschool trade war I've ever witnessed.
make them pay by constantly airing epstein related news, and investigation. this gets under trump skin quite often.
Get em, hosers
Traitor Danielle Smith from Alberta has been suspiciously quiet, since she is on the white houses payroll I expect her to break ranks pretty soon.
Canada understanding the nuances, we appreciate you Canada.
Canada will always have an ally in the West Coast.