Last time this was posted it came down to many bots run on Linux. Thus if near 60% of all internet traffic is bots. These numbers show nearly nothing of value when it comes to figure out what humans are using anymore.

Last time this, or something like this, was posted it was because fewer and fewer people are using PCs at home. They just have a smartphone or tablet and that's it.

In that case they're not using windows they're using MacOS or Android.

It’s because of the recent explosion in bot traffic. Bots are largely run on Linux, using basic desktop user agents. So when studies like this look at desktop traffic, they see a disproportionately high number of Linux desktop users. But in reality, the vast majority of those “users” are actually just bad bots and scrapers who aren’t properly flagging themselves as bots (because they know sites will block them for scraping content).

this is from statcounter.
I mean - I like the numbers, but I doubt their validity:
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-200901-202608

I assume they are including tablets as desktops

Yeah, nobody is running a router as their desktop.

Sucks for them if they have to limit their Internet perspective to a shitty little phone screen. I'd still rather be the cool dinosaur with my gaming desktops with big screens and mechanical keyboards.

My kids love gaming on the desktop computers too - that's the Trojan horse (games) that gave me motivation to learn how to use computers in the first place. Gotta learn how to work the computer to get the games to work.

Both cloudflare stats and statcounter show desktops with roughly 46% of the marketshare. This is definitely not dead, definitely not an "absolute dinosaurs" thing.

I wonder why people are like that every time a post like this appears. Too much insecurity, perhaps?

Also, somehow, these days, people tend to act like everything below 50% is absolute zero when it comes to tech

Because desktops are expensive. You people just can't afford them. You need to put at least 1k into the PC then another 200 into the screen, then mouse, keyboard, headset, webcam... They are cheaper off buying a phone.

Young people barely own stuff anymore. Their wealth is historically low as the tech barons, land barons, and so on own everything they want: homes, tech, uni debt, subscriptions, everything. And meanwhile the young are expected to work longer hours for less pay. In certain countries their pay is taxed up to 50%, but a wealthy person doesn't get a salary so they aren't taxed.

Their parents didn't do much better either, but they didn't have it as bad. But it was bad enough that daycare and childcare is fucking expensive, so they shove a phone into the child's face: now the children know phones from a very young age and are also conditioned to buy one asap because it's all they know.

So yeah, I don't blame young people for not owning PCs. Our society has fumbled, is fumbling, and will continue to fumble making it affordable. If we want young people to be more interested in computing beyond telling Claude to write shit for them, we should be worrying about the wealth gap and affordability crisis.

Those people are peasants.

Yes, in 2020, as part of a way to market a regular annual OS update. The distinction between OSX and MacOS makes zero sense here.

I accidentally opened Edge on my work computer and it simply won't let you close it until you've gone through their inital "welcome" setup. The X on the window doesn't work, same with the X in the taskbar pop up and right-click close, not even alt-f4 worked. Only thing that actually closed it was going through the task manager.

And more importantly, it's the same thing as OS X. They shouldn't be separate lines.

Probably a combination of user agent spoofing and aggregating mobile browser activity incorrectly

It's the inverse of the OSX curve. Probably an OS update that renamed it.

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People who think 60% is too low haven’t met a young person in a while, I think…

Since last year when it was still around 80%?

The severe drop is probably not permanent, while the gradual downturn probably is.

People who think 60% is too high haven’t been to any mid-sized business in a while, I think.

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