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[–] 124 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh no! This guy is in danger! We should set up a ton of security cameras around his house so we can all keep an eye on him and make sure he's safe!

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  • [–] 93 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Now, to be clear, doxxing someone is completely indefensible and dangerous because it puts real people in physical danger. But the irony here is thick.

    Hmmmm. Putting nazis in physical danger is very defensible i think.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    I just like the idea that knowing where he lives in some way puts him in more danger than he already was before. Anyone who really wanted him dead would already has this information.

    So basically him being docxed is just about telling everyone where he lives. He doesn't want that because it'll result in protesters turning up on his lawn but his life is not in any more danger.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    JD Vance had this too. You can't even get up onto the street where his house is when he's home now, because he's so scared of protestors in front of his house that he's had the Secret Service lock the entire street down just to feel safe.

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    [–] 64 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    if he did nothing wrong he shouldn't have anything to fear.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    We should probably just have his computer searched on basic principles, since these guys always turn out to be paedophiles. Always, like literally every single time.

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  • [–] 58 points 1 month ago (17 children)

    Now, to be clear, doxxing someone is completely indefensible and dangerous because it puts real people in physical danger.

    Fuck that. This guy deserves to be doxed and deserves every potential outcome of being doxed.

    To be guillotined would be more mercy than he is owed.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    big tech CEOs are not people. they are rats.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago* (9 children)

    This is dehumanization. It is the tool of the enemy. We do not need it. We will not use it.

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    If you dehumanize persons, you aren't a leftist or revolutionary or the resistance or an activist. You are a fascist.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Ok, I see your point but in a fascist society, what else can you do to stop him? Harsh language? A lawsuit you can't afford?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Oh, violence, even lethal violence might be necessary in defense of self or others. But, we must not deny that we are dealing with persons. I'm not even saying don't dox the guy, I'm saying that don't forget that you are doxing a person.

    The focus should be on rehabilitating the person and remediating any harm they have caused, not on returning harm with harm. Of course, if they are being violent or legitimately threatening violence, defensive violence SHOULD be taken to contain/control/remove the threat.

    Violating his privacy might be a good lesson in how "we should balance privacy and safety" as part of his rehabilitation, but we can do that without dehumanization.

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  • Agreed. And as @noxypaws@pawb.social have said, it is important to realise and remain vigilant that humans can be capable of great harm, and that we ourselves are not immune if we're not carefully with ourselves. Otherwise we might ourselves becomes grown complacent and reproduce those harms on others in some form or another.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 weeks ago

    They're paperclip optimizers. We've designed an economy that said "make people compete for dollars, it'll give us the best products" and sure enough the people who rise to the top do nothing but ruthlessly compete on getting dollars. And just like the thought experiment, in the race to gather more dollars, they trample the human race.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Set up cameras around his house, not pointing directly at his house. Then make some software to guess when he is home or not and what vehicle he left in. Then sell that data to anyone for a cent. Include wi-fi and bluetooth tracking too.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

    Their CEO, Garrett Langley, went on Fox News recently and argued that […] we all just need to accept a "compromise" between privacy and safety.

    I’m struck by what a giant load of bullshit this is and how Flock (and copycat companies like Axion) are just facilitating the sort of police state that would be required to make something like Project 2025 possible.

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    — The U.S.’s own kite-flyin’, not slave fuckin’ (wrong guy, sorry!), $100 dollar bill havin’ Bennie F.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Ben Franklin was very progressive for his time. He owned a few slaves early in his life, but soon freed them and spent the rest of his life as one of that time period's most outspoken critics of slavery. He even bought a printing press so he could spread anti-slavery rhetoric more effectively.

    You have internet, there's no excuse for being wrong unless you just like spreading misinformation.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Side note: Axon is the older of the two companies, and has been making police body cams for over 30 years

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  • [–] 3 points 4 weeks ago

    I think most of us are on-board with police body cameras. The fundamental difference is that they are recording things in the presence of the police, and that they have the measurable benefit of holding the police accountable to their actions (sometimes).

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

    we all just need to accept a "compromise" between privacy and safety.

    You will be safe from retribution when you respect our privacy and stop spying on us.

    That's a fair "compromise ", isn't it?

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago

    The problem is that Flock Safety CEO Garrett Langley is beyond the reach of public justice. He and his company are committing grievous wrongdoing against the people of the United States, and yet there is no judicial or civil recourse.

    And while he remains free, he continues to commit further injustices including providing a service that enables predators and doesn't actually prevent or solve crime. (None that they were able to demonstrate by studies, and instead lied about what their studies said.)

    So while I can't endorse the methods a plumber's brother might take, I can certainly understand them.

    And doxxing doesn't even rise to that occasion.

    I'm not going to criticize doxing this guy any more than I would other evil fucks, such as Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk or Peter Thiel, all of whom wish us harm and have great power to do so.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago

    Such a rookie!

    Didn't he know, in order to pull such stunts with the general public, you have to live in private jets and yachts only.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago

    Be a shame if 10000 flock cameras were installed in his front yard.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    What about axon? They are taking contracts over now... Sucks cause this company also helps with body cameras and those are good.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    Apparently Axon doesn't have the same national network. So a cop in Texas can't track his ex or a woman going for an abortion in Oklahoma.

    I still don't like having ALPR type cameras all over town, though.

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    [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Does this community permit doxxing in this type of circumstance?

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    Corporations are not people and should not have any rights to public space or resources, that includes publicly available information. We don't put things in the commons to be pilfered by private interests, we can't have a commons when they can pilfer them. But here we are.

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