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[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 143 points 4 days ago (9 children)
[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

One of the things I've learned in life is that one should minimize reliance on behaviorial safeguards throught the use of mechanical safeguards. You shouldn't rely on people to do the right thing. As such, removing opportunities for them to fuck up is key.

The design and production of rubber bullets, as they are here, is pure negligence. That they kill 3% of their victims (per your graphic) is enough that I would wager that they would be considered a lethal weapon in other contexts.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 35 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It is this kind of thing that made me decide to ignore my city's municipal codes regarding protest gear. It outlaws the wearing of bulletproof vests, helmets, protective visors, hearing protection, gas masks, and so on. To say the least, I cannot respect a law that is designed to permit bullies to injure or kill people who did nothing wrong.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

how is it legal to stop people from wearing bulletproof vests in public!? Why aren't 2nd amendment mfs screaming about this?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"See, the second amendment specifically says you have a right to bear arms, and that means any kind of gun I want to buy should be legal."

"However, there is no amendment saying you have a right to wear armor. So being protected isn't a constitutional right".

"Oh? This supressor I want to put on my gun? That should be allowed by the second amendment. Wait, what do you mean there is no constitutional right to gun accessories?!"

It usually goes something like that. I'd like to point out here that there isn't a constitutional right to wear pants or eat bacon either.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

It usually goes something like that. I’d like to point out here that there isn’t a constitutional right to wear pants or eat bacon either.

One could similarly say that the right to wield violence does not mean that you have the right for that violence to actually succeed. Some situations allow for the legal use of deadly force, but that still does not mean the explicit right to kill. If a threat is neutralized and they survive, you can't "make sure" that they don't.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 16 points 3 days ago

Gods forbid that people should protect their faces from damage.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 10 points 3 days ago

If you don’t bring any protective gear, you better run when things get ugly. If you plan to stay when things get ugly, you better bring the appropriate gear with you.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 63 points 4 days ago (2 children)

In the video from last weekend of the Australian reporter being shot in the back, you can clearly see the police officer behind her raise and aim straight at her. Clearly there's no repercussions for misusing these weapons.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Different victim but here's what a shot to the back can do:

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago

This shit is ridiculous. I have many, many words. None of which are not pure rage and sadness.

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[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 30 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Clearly there’s no repercussions for misusing these weapons.

Maybe in countries where police accountability isn't a punchline.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Hundreds have been permanently blinded.

Just think about how that could even happen. You put any of us in their shoes, we would obviously aim low, to prevent permanent damage.

It's like police are overgrown toddlers, mad that they're forced to use less lethal rounds... So they take it out on civilians and aim for the face. Can you imagine being as hate-filled as these fucking orcs that you would want to blind the people you "serve" for the rest of their lives (if you don't kill them)!? Absolute monsters...

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[–] 96ToyotaCamry@lemmy.world 130 points 4 days ago (6 children)

You shouldn’t have to wear safety rated glasses to protest, but I wouldn’t go to one without them at this point. If you normally wear glasses and they’re not rated an impact can shatter them and cause even more damage than not wearing them at all would have.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 4 days ago (20 children)

If you have glasses buy safety glasses that go over top of them. Doesn’t matter if your glasses are rated for it, use the safety glasses. Glasses are expensive and safety glasses can be bought for fairly cheap.

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[–] WHARRGARBL@lemmy.world 117 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

The protester was among tens of thousands of people who took to the streets for the demonstrations across Southern California and the rest of the country.

Tens of thousands? There were over FIVE MILLION protesters.

E OVER THIRTEEN MILLION protesters - thank you, Lucidlethargy

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 62 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah the 5 Million seemed like the total number from just counting the big cities. If you actually include the thousands of small protest events all over the US, 12 Million makes a lot more sense

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 days ago

Estimates say there may be have been dozens or more protestors.

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This was so common during protests in Spain they made a movie about it: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4555674/

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"A young man who lost his eye with a rubber ball in a street protest, coincidentally meets the riot police who shot the ball in a dinner."

Holy shit. This must be a thing that cops do on purpose, then.

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[–] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 60 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I hope they recover their vision. As someone who lost sight in one eye I can attest that going from binocular to monocular vision is life altering AND not considered a disability under the ~~law~~ Social Security requirements but typically is covered by ADA.

Edit: clarification.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago (4 children)

How is losing 50% of your eyesight not a disability?

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 4 days ago (3 children)

My dude, teeth are considered luxury bones in this country.

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[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Because you still have eyesight in the other eye, so in social security's mind there's jobs in the Dictionary of Occupational Titles (the DOT) you could still perform, and if there's three jobs you could perform despite your impairment you aren't disabled. Also, if you're under 50 you almost certainly aren't disabled for some reason. It's maddening.

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Can't judge distance anymore either.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

A lot of states don't even care if you've only got so-so vision in one eye and are completely blind in the other. No stereopsis, no problem! Here's a driver's license. Good luck.

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[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 21 points 4 days ago
[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Imagine if you are a refugee and escaped from a war/tyrannical regime only to end up in the US and reading these type of things on the news...

Must be awkward... 👀

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 8 points 3 days ago

Pretty depressing to imagine escaping one despotic regime, through hell and high water, only to watch another rise and set its sights right on you.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Eyewitness News Reporter Sid Garcia spoke to the protester who was shot from his hospital bed at the L.A. General Medical Center.

I was thinking at first like, how lucky to be in a hospital bed already when being shot. 🧐

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

Waiting for Pussolini to send the National Guard to city hall, to depose the mayor and council.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago

They trying to make those rubber bullets letal.

[–] kobra@lemmy.zip 37 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Less lethal is just maiming? That doesn’t seem much fucking better.

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[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I wonder if this was the guy that was injured during Hasan's stream on Saturday? There was a guy injured in the eye and the cops were definitely shooting head level.

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[–] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Classic passive voice headline.

[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

~~Protester shot in the eye with rubber bullet during 'No Kings Day' rally in downtown Los Angeles~~

Police use firearms at point blank range equipped with rubber bullets to get away with literally shooting out the eye of an American peacefully expressing their legally protected 1st Amendment right to protest during the 'No Kings Day' rally in downtown Los Angeles

TL;DR -

FTFY

[–] selfdefense420@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

"Just one more peaceful protest bro. I swear bro"

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

chemistry stores in college sell those hard plastic glasses or goggles.

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

You'll need z87+ (ANSI Z87.1) impact resistant safety glasses or goggles. If the chemistry store does not have these you can find them at any big box hardware store

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