I've heard a lot about AirVPN, but it doesn't have an app on Fdroid or anything. Yes you can download it directly from their site, but that is a little cumbersome.

Another option I'm considering is Windscribe.One major knock against it (and the same thing for AirVPN) is that htere is no tutorial available for installing the wireguard version on openwrt.

I really don't know enough about these. Windscribe has been sort of tested in court (again that was in Greece, and they don't have the same might of an authoritarian state as the US or some place), so that's a plus.

I don't know, I'm so confused that it sort of makes sense to stick with Mullvad at times.

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[–] 29 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Completely agree most people have recommended proton and perhaps wind scribe. But something people tend to miss is proton, mullvad & others tend to use rented vps servers. Ivpn claims they own all of their servers hands down. If that is the case and you may need to look into this then go with them.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I believe mullvad owns most of their servers. Ivpn does not claim to own their servers.

    Not sure if linking is allowed but if you go to IVPN's server status page, they have a quick faq at the bottom where they mention they rent from datacenter partners.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    I did get that claim wrong (and will update the post) but this is what they specifically say in their site.

    No virtual servers

    We operate VPN gateways in 41 countries on dedicated bare-metal servers. No shared VPS, no virtual locations. source

    What is bare metal, and how are IVPN’s servers set up?

    Every IVPN gateway is a bare-metal server: dedicated physical hardware rented from a datacenter partner, not a virtualised instance and not a virtual location. Servers use LUKS full-disk encryption, mandatory access controls, and firewalled IPMI. A small number of pilot gateways also run a RAM-only (diskless) architecture, extending it across the network is an ongoing project.> source (scroll to bottom of page ivpn> web)

    This is important because one slight issue with other services are vpses. Some servers run on shared or cheaper resources, so you'll be paying a premium (per month) for others services. But those providers "servers" are cheap and easy to setup. I may have been wrong on what I have said (but we all are at some point and I'm sorry.)/ I Still think their a pretty good alternative. Ivpn also rotates the wire guard keys per day which mullvad doesn't yet and they are aware of you can read their post here Mullvad blog

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  • [–] 18 points 3 weeks ago

    I’ve been using IVPN for a few months and I’m happy with it. Was on mullvad before.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    airvpn and ivpn appear to be the only ethical ones.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago

    I've seen IVPN recommended a lot compared to Mullvad but I have no experience with it personally

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (28 children)

    There's Proton, but given the controversy... yeah (though I did look at what they donate to and it seems to not be right-wing companies).

    IVPN is perhaps your best bet.

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    [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Why would you migrate from Mullvad?

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  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago

    One of the owners of Mullvad donated a vast sum of money to a Swedish Nazi political party, accounting for 70% of their funding, which resulted in boosted popularity there.

    This is the leader of that political party:

    https://www.friatider.se/markus-allard-om-andra-generationens-invandrare-de-ska-ocksa-ut

    Örebro Party leader Markus Allard goes to the election on expulsions. He opens to withdraw citizenship and also expel second generation of immigrants – even if they were born in Sweden.
    "I'm prepared to cross corpses," he said.

    One suggestion that he has is that citizenship and permanent residence permits can be torn up – with reference to "Sweden is the country of Swedes".

    In a section of Yoshi's Podcast, Allard develops his view on expulsions and explains that he prepared to "go over corpses" to bring home unwanted immigrants. The host notes that there will be no beautiful sight when, for example, immigrant mothers who have been on maternity leave for 15 years are to be deported together with their children. "It's not going to be pretty to send these people home," he said. Markus Allard agrees, but says: I think you can handle that optics. Even the children will need to be deported, he explains.

    He further explains that many of the problems relate to second-generation immigrants. They are going out too. Even if they were born in Sweden, because they have no natural connection to Sweden. They are not Swedes. They have not become Swedes. It says Sweden in the passport, but they have not been interested in becoming part of Sweden. There's a difference. It's a qualitative difference," Allard said.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (5 children)

    I switched to Xeovo, works great so far. Winscribe was a no after this: https://x.com/Windscribe/status/1991176084662964688

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Please don't make us visit twitter. Windscribe makes some transphobic statement in that tweet.

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    [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    OpenVPN on a VPS from Njalla paid for in Monero

    I'm not being silly (other than that I'm a freakin' tinfoil hat compared to most people)

    This is my actual setup.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Depends on your reason for using a VPN. Presumably your Njalla VPS has a static IP address. I like being able to rotate servers if one is being blocked by a given service (ie YouTube).

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago*

    Seconding electric nan's comment. There is a valid use case for that model IMO, but it also ties your identity to a different fixed IP. Maybe if you were PERFECT about opsec it wouldn't tie to your ID, but in practice nobody is going to be. That's nearly impossible in today's tracking centric world. So data brokers will learn user X has IP Y, nobody else uses that IP, so other connections from IP Y are probably user X too.

    There's a benefit to sharing an IP with many other ppl and rotating the IP around. There are drawbacks too ofc.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    I've heard a lot about AirVPN, but it doesn’t have an app on Fdroid or anything. Yes you can download it directly from their site, but that is a little cumbersome.

    Consider using Obtainium. It might be a little cumbersome to get it set up, but once you do, Obtainium will handle checking for and installing updates whenever they are released.

    Install Obtainium from GitHub or F-Droid. Then you can add Eddie (the AirVPN client app) by using the install button on this page:
    https://apps.obtainium.imranr.dev/apps?categoryMode=inclusive&category=vpn&sort=popular&q=Eddie

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    [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Highly recommend AirVPN. The Eddie App is perfectly fine.

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    [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    IVPN is very good imo, I'm using it, and I love it

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    I know you mentioned AirVPN only having an app on their website, but you can use it with the wireguard client (you just have to make the conf file names short enough and remove special characters to import them). This is how I personally use AirVPN on Android.

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    [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

    Why should I migrate from a trusted vendor?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children)

    Ivpn, Ovpn, Azire VPN, VP.net are serious alternatives. For more control, build your own VPN (or directly via Njalla, 1984...). For more encryption, full post-quantum VPN might be an option. Most of all, never forget that any VPN is a potential honeypot. VPN are necessary to limit the impact of surveillance capitalism (i'm not an Ads man !), or to watch other countries streaming series. Dont expect beeing anonymous (advanced fingerprinting, and in some cases Hénéssay, do not care about your super VPN). Of course, staying away from free VPN is a sign of good prudence.

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