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[–] 192 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Good. Everything Google touches needs to be forked.

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  • [–] 83 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)
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  • [–] 135 points 3 weeks ago (36 children)

    The number of Europeans in here acting like What's App, which might as well be Facebook Messenger, is some sort of high road is hilarious.

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  • [–] 70 points 3 weeks ago (33 children)

    Yeah I still don't get why people use or promote WhatsApp. If anything, use Signal or even Telegram

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  • [–] 35 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

    I have thought this for years. Everyone slimes on Americans for using iMessage and asks who no WhatsApp? Same reason I’m not on facebook, don’t use a meta quest, and don’t use instagram.

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    [–] 134 points 3 weeks ago (20 children)

    2 weeks now on Graphene. This is what a phone OS should be, simple, boring, juste the basics without a shit-ton of bloatware and spying crap.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 weeks ago (18 children)

    This has been available since forever, though. Cyanogenmod/LineageOS was the biggest. Oneplus followed along and I love my OP15, though that's coming to a bitter end

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago

    Cyanogenmod and LineageOS have always felt like hacks upon hacks and always had something broken. While I have my gripes with GOS it's truly the first time since I have had a custom ROM that just works through and through.

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    [–] 71 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

    I hope it's functionally installable on other versions of android

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    [–] 61 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

    Literally everyone should just use Signal. I really don't understand why we all don't.

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  • [–] 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

    Because Signal 1) doesn't ship as default, and 2) requires a login process.

    You've already lost the majority of the general public with the former. On top of that, the Venn diagram of "people who go through with logging in" and "people who already know about Signal" has significant overlap.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    But the same is true for WhatsApp…

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago

    You see, the problem is that whatsapp came very early, when it released it wasn't shit and it provided free messages which in many european countries wasn't a thing yet, everyone hopped on it and used it as main communication platform, this created a big ass network effect that is nearly unescapeable, even today i can't escape from it because i am the only idiot who uses Signal and Matrix and no one wants to leave whatsapp because they already have an account and all their contacts

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    [–] 58 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    For those who got too excited by the title: read the original messages from the GrapheneOS. RCS de-facto is not an open technology, there's a massive amount of work and multiple steps are needed to get anywhere near the proper independent implementation. It's gonna be amazing if the GrapheneOS team pulls it off, but don't get too excited about the release dates and its availability for other systems (e.g. Linux).

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    [–] 37 points 3 weeks ago* (15 children)

    As a basic sms user, is RCS the reason my conversations now sometimes get flooded with messages like, "so-and-so loved this"?

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    [–] 36 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

    Excellent! Since Signal removed SMS support there's no trusted app supporting old SMS and encrypted messaging on one UI

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    [–] 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    yooo! while i wait for mobile linux to be realistic for my device this is a win

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    The GOAT

    Please consider a donation

    https://grapheneos.org/donate

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    Ok so RCS is basically WhatsApp/Signal but Google(+Carriers) but retarded:

    • The client software is propiertary and screws you over when you e.g. root your phone
    • They finally realized that E2EE exists - 10 years after everyone else implemented it
    • You can't view the docs unless you're a Google Partner
    • The protocol seems to be a mess
    • You need a mobile data connection for it to work (sometimes not)
    • Knowbody knows how the server software works or can be hosted, everything is "Google Jibe" or needs to connect to it to work
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    [–] 21 points 3 weeks ago (22 children)

    Patiently waiting for supported devices expansion and no i don't want them to rush, i just don't want to buy a new phone to be free of Google.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    I bought a second hand pixel 8 pro.

    I get the vibe there's not much intention to expand compatibility.

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    [–] 19 points 3 weeks ago

    Aw helllllllll yeah 😎

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  • [–] 19 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Very much needed.
    This has been missing for years

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    [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    A big hurdle with RCS was carrier adoption, at least in Asia.

    I wonder about two things:

    1. Would Graphene team’s implementation be usable on other devices that are less fortunate to be supported by the OS?
    2. Would this be a drop-in replacement or would Graphene team need to work with carriers so that their implementation actually work?

    On a tangential note, I would really like to read an in-depth analysis of how RCS had such a botched up implementation, which it has still to recover from almost a decade later.

    The adoption is nowhere close to what it should have been, and instead it is now more associated with spam than actual communication. The Wikipedia entry does cover a lot of aspects, but it doesn’t explain how it went wrong.

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    [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago

    It'll be a while I'm sure, but I'm here for it πŸ™ŒπŸΎ

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago

    This would be great. Definitely one of the few missing features.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I've had my GV number as my primary for ~16 years. I've been on grapheneos for about a year now. Maybe I should actually pull the trigger and migrate my number to my provider and finally get RCS. All the better if GrapheneOS provides native support.

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