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GrapheneOS is building its own RCS support to cut Google Messages out of the picture (www.androidauthority.com)
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[–] 21 points 1 month ago (22 children)

Patiently waiting for supported devices expansion and no i don't want them to rush, i just don't want to buy a new phone to be free of Google.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I bought a second hand pixel 8 pro.

    I get the vibe there's not much intention to expand compatibility.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    They require certain features that most phones don't have in order to be willing to support them. They want phones with GrapheneOS to be impossible to break into even by sophisticated methods such as Cellbrite so it defeats the purpose if it can be circumvented by methods that don't involve the OS.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    My current daily driver is an HMD Skyline and it's been great thus far and repairability is good but it isn't listed anywhere as being supported by alternative OSs.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    They're working with Motorola to make a device

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    It's supposed to be out next year but only the highest end devices will be supported because GrapheneOS requires certain security features in the firmware and hardware that Pixel 11, the lower end Motorola devices, and the other brands don't/won't have.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago*

    Seems like Pixel 11 has the hardware but they turned the Arm Memory Tagging Extension (MTE) off in firmware for 'performance' reasons. gOS has been able to turn it back on, but the jury's still out on whether they'll support it as I understand it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I looked at Motorola's current devices to get a sense and it's pretty sad. My plan of sticking with my used 1TB 9 Pro (non XL) holds. Honestly I need to look at phone insurance because I want to ride this thing out the full 7 years of support.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Only phones that can have the bootloader relocked by Graphene will be supported. New Motorola phones are coming but they will be expensive. Get a Pixel (not 11).

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    That's just one of the things required for graphene, there are a lot of hardware security features that are also required. Only Pixels (not Pixel 11) have these so far, but the Motorola phones will change that of course.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeah but can you really trust pixels? Google hardware, ewww. I would rather pay more for proper hardware

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Google put out a surprising amount of documentation that allowed graphene to build everything they needed from the ground up. It basically wasn’t possible to do anything as secure and independent of Google software on any other model.

    Ironically, the phone Google makes is the only option right now to get fully away from Google. Motorola is working with graphene to release a model that meets the main criteria, but it’s not out yet.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    Buying a Google phone in order to get rid of Google seems sort of counterproductive, doesn't it?

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