Don’t worry, it’s DEFINITELY not because they would need to disclose their finances to investors. Just keep pouring money in and everything will turn out fine!
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It's got nothing to do with safety, he doesn't have the numbers to go public and is trying to mask that.
My $0.02 is that Dario genuinely believes* this, Sam doesn't, but it's convenient for OpenAI to hitch its wagon to Anthropic's call for regulation because their financials are a mess.
- just because his belief is genuine doesn't mean it's reasonable. I find the whole thing kind of laughable actually.
Ya, these are the people who absolutely gave zero fucking shits about safety up until the point they realized they couldn't hand off the bag to the public.
What kind of numbers do they need?
Revenue growth that suggests a path to profitability would be a start.
https://www.wheresyoured.at/ He's laid out what they need in painstaking detail.
For the evaluation OpenAI and its investors would target, they would need pretty great ones. But another thing is that they'd also need to look good relative to anthropic, who is also looking at an IPO.
Not sure if their plan for it has changed,but OpenAI would always be measured against them. And my understanding is that anthropic is said to have better financials while having raised less investment money so far.
There is only so much liquidity for IPOs and SpaceX already vacuumed up a lot. If both openai and and anthropic would IPO as an option for investors to buy into a pure play, I assume everyone would compare the two and go for the perceived winner (or want a good discount for the second best)
This is what we get for Musk keeping Trump balls warm. Probably the same reason we see Tesla back with the majority of US EV sales. Fuckin racket. If the spacex and grok deal wasnt a thing the other players might have a chance to have some skin in the IPO game. Yes, yes, why sympathize for these corporate monsters, I heard you already. Just raving about politics.
I don’t see how they’re going to meet their revenue projections when open models are largely turning LLMs into a free commodity. So far in 2026, we’ve gone from local LLMs being a toy to Qwen 3.8 27B giving the latest Sonnet 5 a run for its money. The OpenCode desktop app is also almost at parity with the Claude desktop app as well and I’ve heard Pi is pretty good too.
Now we are seeing techniques like a “phrase book” evolving to allowing a large portion of a huge model to reside on a SSD instead of in RAM / VRAM so that Opus-class models can run on a gaming PC. For example, this video is nuts: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IH8XmxiwliQ
OpenAI and Anthropic know they’re cooked, so that’s why they’re talking all this nonsense trying to keep the shell game going a while longer. 🍿
I’m so glad an at home competitive solution to the AI fuckery is here now. I hope this fast forwards the bubble bursting and pc prices go back down when an iPhone or Android phone can run an equally good AI on the device itself.
PC prices will be heated up by demand for hardware to run local models. There will always be more advanced models requiring more advanced hardware, or at least for a good while. First it'll need better hardware to perfect the text generation, then to improve image generation, then to improve video generation, then to make flawless code in large projects like games, etc. etc.
At the very least, GPUs and RAM will probably stay overly expensive for a while.
That company is fucked.
Indeed. Next year several billion dollar loans of theirs comes due, with more and larger ones the following year and so on.
Their business burns a gallon of gas per homework assignment cheated and Anthropic does it better while China does it cheaper.
More likely its because they need more time to cook their books.
They can’t go public.
I bet they end up merging or being bought long before they’re actually ready to go public.
I hope they go right under a rock and stay there.
Hahaha, AI hype has already reached and past its peak, the best time to do an ipo for them is today, second best time would be tomorrow.
Sure it might be here to stay, but the gold rush FOMO phase is over.
The tech CEO's are playing into fears of AI, because their development didn't meet their hype.
There is no doubt, they don't give a fuck and we all should know it. They believe in nothing except self advancement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vQaVIoEjOM
Don't believe the Hype. Yeeeeaah boooyy.
what they are really saying, especially with the “slow down china bad” rhetoric is just temporally advanced from stuff Adam Smith wrote about, long ago: they cannot keep up and are crying to the powers so shareholders are protected
Reminder: none of the AI industry is remotely based in reality.
https://www.wheresyoured.at/ai-is-already-in-dangerous-hands/
Good news for retail investors.
Hilarious.. I guess this pushes back the inevitable bubble collapse (probably until just after they do go public)
They will never go public. Their finances will be in an even poorer state next year, because that is when the first of their many billion dollar loans are coming due.
The guy goes fuzzball on telling everyday AI is going to kill us all, then "well I can't IPO, people are afraid"?
Well, guess what my little boy, what did you expect?
Sam, we don't believe you, you make no sense at all, you liar piece of shit.
Because they're generating money with zero expectation of ever making any. Getting more customers only costs them more...
BUUUUULLLLSHIT. He just doesn't want to answer honestly to shareholders. The product is a scammy money pit propped up by tissue paper and the confoolery of our liar and chief.
Is this a concession of defeat to spaceX
what i heard was that ai companies now push for regulation to legitimize themselves in front of the law. that saves ai companies from the state being like "yea the party's up we stop this and crack down on it"
same happened to bitcoin.
but idk shit :)
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