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[–] 106 points 1 week ago (14 children)

The Heritage Foundation is speedrunning the collapse of the postwar (WWII) global order, with intention. They posted their plans in plain sight. Nobody with the power to stop them lifted a finger.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    https://aeon.co/essays/why-western-democracy-is-ailing-and-how-to-fix-it

    We entered this era of an unjust social order, political malaise and destabilisation almost half a century ago when the US president Ronald Reagan and the UK prime minister Margaret Thatcher introduced libertarian reforms that were embraced globally.

    At his first cabinet meeting as president in 1981, Reagan distributed copies of Mandate for Leadership, whose 3,000 pages came out of the Heritage Foundation, a conservative research group in Washington, DC. This became the ideology of neoliberalism, which advocated a smaller state, industry deregulation, tax cuts, strengthened defence, and roll-back of social engineering. A year later, 60 per cent of the Mandate’s proposals had been adopted by the Reagan administration,

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    What intent would that be. I have not read the Proj25 so asking

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  • [–] 42 points 1 week ago (11 children)

    The decline began with Reagan, and accelerated with 9/11.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 week ago (10 children)

    That's a funny way to spell Nixon

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  • [–] 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I disagree. The Nixon government was awful, but so were many governments before. It wasn't a decline per se, it was just part of the constant change (both good and bad) in leadership.

    The real decline began when corporatism started to take over the political/legal system, which was mainly a Reagan phenomenon. Large businesses started pulling everything towards their shareholders, nothing for the workers. Syndicates lost power. The political system started being bought by the corporations. Whole laws started being bought by the corporations.

    While corruption has always existed, previously it was something to hide, to be ashamed of. But with the corporate takeover of the USA it gradually began to be normalized, and now it's almost expected from any relevant figure.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Corporatism has had a hold on the political and legal system in the US since the beginning, just to varying degrees. Shareholder primacy gained a foothold in the 30s and 40s alongside the decay of antitrust law. Prior to that, the Lochner era of cases defined the era of corporate control. The late 1800s had robber barons and oil and railroad tycoons killing people with private police forces. Slave plantations and the vestiges controlled the South, and with it the rest of the country, since the 3/5ths compromise and before. We are just in a new form today with tech companies controlling everything, including the public forum, while SCOTUS green lights everything in favor of corporations, conservatives, and the wealthy, and Congress is absolutely deadlocked. It is definitely a far side of the pendulum swing, and it might be the one we can't realistically swing back from any time soon, but it is well within the political and legal themes of the US historically.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago

    Check out the Powel Memorandum. From the 70s moneyed interests started to systematically shift power to the wealthy and large corporations. They created think tanks like the Heritage Foundation to give the project the veneer of scientific legitimation. Reagan was the first to accept a policy blue print from Heritage. Since then they have been working to stack the courts, form government policy and legislate a shift if money and power to the few. Trump is reaping the benefits of what has been prepared since Reagan. Trickle down economy was one of the greatest scams of all time.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 week ago (96 children)

    I mean it’s good that it’s ended, but the way it’s ending is far worse than most ways it could’ve.

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  • [–] [S] 43 points 1 week ago (94 children)

    I think an end in this way was foreseeable. I think a segment of the left, particularly the authoritarian left, had a naïve notion that the end of the US empire would inevitability result in some form of class awareness instead of just nostalgic fascism and evangelical millenarianism.

    We'll need each other more than ever in the death throes.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    Also that the Pax Americana was just propaganda. The war in Ukraine is pretty obvious. However the conflicts in the Sahel have also gotten a lot worse since the US has mostly withdrawn itself from that region. Sudan is especially bad(chemical warfare, mass starvation and so forth). The Congo conflict is also flaring up again.

    I would not be surprised if things get a lot worse in the near future.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Doesn't that sort of support Pax Americana being a real thing? If conflicts get worse when America withdraws?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    Once an empire has subjugated it's territory by force, there is often a time of "peace," enforced through domination and the elimination of any threats to the empire's authority. Of course, empires rise and fall, so it is inevitable that that peace will end, as the empire retracts to deal with internal problems. This generally leaves the subjugated territories in a position of chaos and instability, as the existing power structures no longer have foreign backing to prop them up.

    This is why, even the most moral and well-intended empire (if such a thing could exist) is still problematic on a fundamental, systemic level. I actually made a post about this concept a few years ago. Countries and governments need to be able to stand on their own two feet, backed more by domestic popular support than foreign powers. Of course, there are sometimes pragmatic compromises that have to be made, and no country can be fully isolated from "The Great Game." But I would hardly consider chaos and conflict coming from the retraction of the US empire as a reason to think that empire was a good thing. To me, it just shows that the geopolitical order has been dependent a single point of failure.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    I think that's their point, that a segment of the left thought pax americana was pure propaganda and it wasn't. It wasn't benevolent but for years it did keep global conflict tamped down.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago

    There were far fewer deaths in western Europe in 1941-1943 than in 1944. Does that make the "Pax Nazi-Germanica" a good thing?

    When an empire built on exploitation collapses, it is almost always a good thing to remove that empire's puppets and replace them with representative governments. If those puppets desperately cling to power they no longer have the backing to maintain, then it's usually a good thing to remove them violently to end their exploitative ways.

    Thus an increase of violence during the collapse of an oppressive empire is both natural and probably a good thing in the long term.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    i think the 'authleft' (at this point the political compass as a phenomenon should be a gen-ed 3 credit-hour class btw) was mostly gen x and millennial doomers with a lapsed DSA membership who thought if America didn't decline we'd start a nuclear war. you experienced the optimistic slice of the terminally online slice who were fans of pretending to have read theory and then arguing with anarchists, please keep in mind that every group of terminally online people you are tempted to generalize should be treated as about 1% of their representative population, assuming posting on social media is their only hobby.

    no matter what set of ideological clothes you put on, the fall of America and rise of China was clear to anyone with open eyes as early as Obama and to schizos as early as Tienanmen square

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  • Yeah… there was a graceful and positive way for this to occur at one point, but definitely not anymore, I think. The last couple years have been less “ripping the bandaid off” and more “stabbing oneself in the neck”.

    I know there will be some real benefits in a handful of contexts and regions, but overall, I shudder to imagine the implications of this rapid and violent abrogation and dismantling of Pax Americana.

    That’s not to say that I’m expressing “wooooo ‘MURICUH”, or pining for days of Cold War yore when we fucked around with fomenting coups in tons of countries - nothing of the sort, in fact. Simply pointing out that nobody fully comprehends what all the fallout from this tectonic geopolitical shift will ultimately encompass. The American global security/enforcement apparatus has underpinned the vast majority of the geopolitical and global economic context and (relative) stability since the end of WW2, and even moreso since the end of the Cold War, and now that we’re… uh… not doing that anymore… this is completely new territory. We are in the geopolitical Wild West now. It’s arguably too broad of a generalization to say “all bets are off”… but a lot of them actually are, in a meaningful sense.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    President Trump did not erode U.S. capabilities on his own.

    True, he had plenty of help from his cronies and the billionaires. You might think that doesn't make any sense, but billionaires are going for WORLD dominance, they want EVERYONE under their thumb, including the U.S. Especially the U.S.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago

    I can't believe the person who failed at everything is failing the USA. It's crazy /s

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    https://archive.li/RbmnE

    pretty crappy article, headline feels like clickbait

    tldr us military not doing well in iran, not getting along with others

    i’ll believe this “end of the american age” when i see it, not because it’s doing a shit job in a war with another country in the middle east (what’s new?)

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    [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    Not over but ending. That will take years.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I had to downvote due to the paywall.

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    [–] 3 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    If america collapsed, there is a high probability that it would be replaced with a Christian fundamentalist government.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    ...and then shortly after that, the new Christian fundamentalist government will become a global problem.

    And then shortly after that, there will no longer be a Christian fundamentalist government. This will likely come with messy consequences for Americans.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    There is the issue of nuclear weapons. Especially if a bunch of doomsday cultists are in charge of them. The safest would probably be a US civil war, or at least an internal NATO conflict. Like the US invading Canada and getting eaten alive by Canadian and antifascist guerillas.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (2 children)

    I'm lgbt, and my familty betrayed me for Trump. You want a war in the US? Send the rich. I'd sooner die alone. Many of us have no dog in the race. People is the US are depressed and anxious and exhausted. Most isolated. There is nothing for me personally to fight for.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Depression is natural. The brain needs time to unlearn old ways of thinking that have proven unhelpful, and during that time you genuinely don't know what to think. Anxiety is natural, you are in an unsafe situation. Exhaustion is natural, most work you are doing is not going to serve you so it's better to save your strength.

    And isolation - well that's you identifying what you need to do to find some safety and comfort, how you can start doing work that energizes you, how you can learn to think in ways that actually make sense. If you have nothing to fight for, you might as well go looking for people you can connect with.

    Trust me, and more importantly trust your heart: you don't have anything better to do.

    And when you do find your people, then I am sorry but you will have something to fight for.

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