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[–] 59 points 6 days ago* (8 children)

still gonna vote for them over the GOP.

until a truly popular 3rd party candidate can honestly get enough votes. we're stuck with the 2 we have. or until people rise up and take down the system

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  • [–] 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Or we get ranked-choice voting and other parties are a viable possibility. But of course, neither the GOP or Dems want to lose the iron grip of financing and power.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    I know what you're saying, but what you're waiting for as a sign is logically impossible within the constraints you've defined. If no one votes for 3rd parties because they aren't popular enough then they will always be too unpopular to vote for.

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  • [–] 43 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    Right now, I feel like the DNC is so weak, and the democratic socialism is so strong, I'm hoping for a DSA takeover of the Democrat party, much like the MAGA takeover of the Republican party.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 days ago

    The good news is, the Dems have no plans other than continuing unsuccessful policy to align themselves with corporations, progressives can continue to be successful if we keep at it.

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  • [–] 24 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    These posts tilt neo-liberals so fucking hard.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 days ago (7 children)
    1. Primary progressives in.
    2. General election fascists out.

    Do anything else and all you are doing is fucking yourself...and not in a fun way.

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  • [+] [S] -14 points 6 days ago (6 children)

    Let's get rid of open fascists by electing covert fascists

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  • [–] 20 points 6 days ago (5 children)

    Let's get rid of all fascists.

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  • [+] -8 points 6 days ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 24 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    Criticism of antidemocratic behavior from the Democratic Party ≠ propaganda telling you not to vote.

    Claiming that it is IS, on the other hand, is the equivalent of "vote for the lesser oppressor without comment. Dissent is treason."

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  • [+] 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)
  • the fact this shit only ever really comes up is noticed right before an election against republicans…

    Fixed it for you. I call out the bullshit of both parties all year every year. So do most people who aren't party loyalists with blinders on.

    bad faith argument is bad faith

    Yep. That's what the "you're only criticizing Dems to help Republicans" deflection is. It's a a bad faith argument and a strawman.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 6 days ago (8 children)

    We do vote, but we are not democrats so we dont vote for democrats any more than you vote for republicans. They're both trash

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  • [+] 3 points 6 days ago (4 children)
  • [–] [S] -3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    You're calling yourself a lefty while defending Democrats? You are not a lefty, you are a right-wing Democrat

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  • [+] 6 points 6 days ago (7 children)
  • [–] [S] 4 points 6 days ago (6 children)

    So you believe the people that said voters should not expect a fair election because they are a private corporation and can pick the candidates they want, are worthy of being supported?

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  • [+] 2 points 6 days ago (5 children)
  • [–] [S] -1 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    Republicans are not the alternative, Republicans are the same, the alternative is voting for third parties

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  • The mods are just obliterating people here... It's beautiful.

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  • [+] -11 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    Sanders is beyond irresponsible on his election conspiracy. Dude spread that shit leading up to 2016 and 2020 and the whole time he knew the dnc rigged nothing. He was unpopular and lost.

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  • [+] 0 points 6 days ago (1 child)